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Old 05-14-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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In North Carolina he can now be arrested for using a men't restroom, so yes someone cares the idiots running the state of North Carolina care. And how do you know that trans kids in school look like, did you do some research?

Here are some trans kids:
Kids are minors. Exactly what is the legal authority that allows minors to choose an alternate gender? And are they alone able to legally agree to sex change hormone therapy and surgery? Or must someone else sign the legal paperwork on their behalf?
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Please relax and take a deep breath.

Transgenders have been using public school bathrooms since long before any of you were ever born.
Yes well you'll be happy to know that men can now change in the women's shower / locker room. It has nothing to do with transgender. If you want to see and harass naked women, you can walk right in. If anyone challenges you, Obama's law now tells you you're allowed to say you "feel like a woman inside" and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Kids are minors. Exactly what is the legal authority that allows minors to choose an alternate gender? And are they alone able to legally agree to sex change hormone therapy and surgery? Or must someone else sign the legal paperwork on their behalf?
The discussion is about trans kids in schools, now you want to argue that it's illegal or something? nah..I don't think so.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yes well you'll be happy to know that men can now change in the women's shower / locker room. It has nothing to do with transgender. If you want to see and harass naked women, you can walk right in. If anyone challenges you, Obama's law now tells you you're allowed to say you "feel like a woman inside" and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it
Sure
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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More votes for Trump.

O really hates Hillary.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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More votes for Trump.

O really hates Hillary.
He just gets crazier all the time. He really represents none of us.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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.......under threat of loss of Federal funding.


Get the Feds out of our schools I say.

My concern is the safety of the students choosing to use the opposite gendered bathroom. Letting them use it is one thing. How are you going to enforce tolerance with the other students? We have three transgendered students in my school that I know of. It's not so much an issue in the girls bathroom because they use individual stalls but I don't see the boys accepting a biological girl in their bathroom when they use urinals. Showers and locker rooms are another issue. Where nudity can happen you can't allow mixing of genders. In that case you have to go with what equipment they have or don't have as the case may be.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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Here, in California, a number of schools have already been accommodating transgender students for the past two years. The law passed in 2013 and took effect in 2014. Mr. Obama is behind the times, when it comes to California.

Schools Offer Lessons On Accommodating Transgender Students « CBS San Francisco

While students have commented that it has been an adjustment, they are adapting and don't seem terribly bothered by the rule.
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Old 05-14-2016, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The person in the photo I posted is Chaz Bono a FTM transgender, and according to the North Carolina law, and the lawsuit just filed in Texas he would have to use a women's restroom/locker room/shower because their birth certificate states female, so perhaps your reasoning is working against you.

The picture you posted looks like some kind of odd ball goth, body art aficionado I have no idea what gender that person is, and I would not be concerned if they entered a lady's room that I was occupying so what is your point?


Chaz Bono before/after
That's not what the law says at all. He could use the men's room and frankly nobody would care or notice.
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Old 05-14-2016, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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That's not what the law says at all. He could use the men's room and frankly nobody would care or notice.
Did you read the law?

"The following definitions apply in this section: Biological sex. – The physical condition of being male or female, which is stated on a person's birth certificate."
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