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You seriously don't think that just because people weren't talking about it does not mean people were not being raped?
What are you talking about? Obviously people got raped. There was not talk that you are responsible for or more likely to be raped because you wore a halter top and Calvin Klein jeans or flirted with a guy. I never heard this unless it was a rape case and the clothing or sexual history defense being used abusively by lawyers against the victim. Wanting to look cute and flirting is normal for young women and men as is partying during college. Now, all of a sudden we have to act like we are living under Taliban, no drinking, no sexy clothing or parties or flirting because some guys can't handle it, just, weird. There has to be something behind this and it reeks of a trashy and entitled youth culture that goes way beyond yoga pants, flirts or beer.
Your logic is like saying, "why wear a seatbelt when people get killed wearing seatbelts anyway?"
People need to be advocates for their own safety. To that end, you minimize risk.
Your seat belt against rape is a Frank discussion with all young women , that black out drinking will make them helpless and get them raped.
My logic is to have both Air Bags & Seat Belts for the safety of all women ( by making the men ) the primary target and focus on reducing the incidents
of rape in ours communities.
This will be achieved by making all men (A) Caucasian (B) AA (C) Asian (D) Latinos 100
percent responsible for the raping of women.
Women are 100 percent responsible for drinking
to the point of blacking out drunk , but 0 percent
responsible for them being raped by a man.
I disagree. In some cases, a rape can be the woman's fault. Just like there are situations where a man can hit a woman. If she provokes the situation, then it IS her fault.
Some posters made fun of my prior post, criticizing the flirty women at my job. No, I do not spend all of my time watching the young women in jealousy. What is annoying is how they play the men. They do dress in tight pants (now the fad is black yoga pants), and they act all flirty to get the men to help them with their work. They are just a bunch of c*ckteases and that isn't what feminism is about. I do my work well and I interact with the guys on a peer to peer level. I treat them with respect and do my fair share of the work. And I don't flirt with them because I am happy with my boyfriend.
And if a woman does dress sexy, and she is acting like she is single and being flirty with the guys, well then of course they will get the wrong message if she actually doesn't want to date them. And it goes back to what I see in my workplace, the young women flirty with all the guys, single and married... and also the ones that they would never kiss in a million years (being ugly, or old). And my boyfriend's mother believes that a woman's face is her fortune, so again, there is a problem with our society that encourages women to obsess over their looks and sex appeal to men. Me, I don't care how I come across to me. As long as my boyfriend finds me attractive, that is enough for me. As it is, he also finds my brain incredibly appealing... and it makes my happy that as the wrinkles set in, he will still love me.
Last night, I was very disappointed to read that my college has one of the higher incidences of reported rapes on campus. When I was going to Brown in the late 1970's, I saw none of that. I lived in a co-ed dorm my freshman year, and those boys were like brothers to me. But back then, I lived in t-shirts and jeans, and was very shy. As an upper classman, I went for a punk look with pink in my hair, but I was still treated with respect. My best friend was an extremely pretty Japanese girl from NYC and she never had any problems with unwanted sexual attacks either. But neither of us dressed like sluts, we had self-confidence, and we also never drank to excess at parties. I have worked at two college campuses over a period of eight years, and the female students do act and dress more feminine and girly than when I was going to school. I see a lot of spike heeled shoes instead of the sneakers I used to run around campus in.
Anyway, if I had daughters, they would be tomboys, no makeup, no heels, wrenching on cars, driving stickshift and going to track days with their parents. There would be no one with princess or snowflake complexes in our house.
This post is so f*cking stupid, on so many levels.
I'm staggered you can claim to be an older woman, claim to be educated and post this utter, utter **** that you have in this thread.
This post is so f*cking stupid, on so many levels.
I'm staggered you can claim to be an older woman, claim to be educated and post this utter, utter **** that you have in this thread.
I've been on road trips all over the US by myself. Walked through cities like Baltimore and NYC by myself. During summers in Providence, I worked in South Providence and walked several blocks at night to catch a bus. Late night subway rides in Boston. And always, never had any problems with the locals. No muggings, no assaults. There are ways of blending in, or not standing out as a potential victim. But the young women of today are just asking to be hassled by the way they act and dress. And they should be able to talk to a man or co-worker in neutral manner that isn't a flirtaceous.
I've been on road trips all over the US by myself. Walked through cities like Baltimore and NYC by myself. During summers in Providence, I worked in South Providence and walked several blocks at night to catch a bus. Late night subway rides in Boston. And always, never had any problems with the locals. No muggings, no assaults. There are ways of blending in, or not standing out as a potential victim. But the young women of today are just asking to be hassled by the way they act and dress. And they should be able to talk to a man or co-worker in neutral manner that isn't a flirtaceous.
I've been on road trips all over the US by myself. Walked through cities like Baltimore and NYC by myself. During summers in Providence, I worked in South Providence and walked several blocks at night to catch a bus. Late night subway rides in Boston. And always, never had any problems with the locals. No muggings, no assaults. There are ways of blending in, or not standing out as a potential victim. But the young women of today are just asking to be hassled by the way they act and dress. And they should be able to talk to a man or co-worker in neutral manner that isn't a flirtaceous.
STOP! Just because you have not been the victim of a sexual assault gives you no right to be so ***** sanctimonious. Good grief. Many people take all the precautions you mentioned and are still raped. How can you not understand that? You have no right to judge them.at.all!
I've been on road trips all over the US by myself. Walked through cities like Baltimore and NYC by myself. During summers in Providence, I worked in South Providence and walked several blocks at night to catch a bus. Late night subway rides in Boston. And always, never had any problems with the locals. No muggings, no assaults. There are ways of blending in, or not standing out as a potential victim. But the young women of today are just asking to be hassled by the way they act and dress. And they should be able to talk to a man or co-worker in neutral manner that isn't a flirtaceous.
And? Why do you think your experiences are the be all and end all?
Can you grasp for one second, that the majority of rapes and assaults are from someone the victim knows? and are occurring in their own homes?
Just answer the question, no anecdotes please.
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STOP! Just because you have not been the victim of a sexual assault gives you no right to be so ***** sanctimonious. Good grief. Many people take all the precautions you mentioned and are still raped. How can you not understand that? You have no right to judge them.at.all!
