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View Poll Results: Should the federal government mechanically limit trucks and buses to below 68MPH?
Yes 21 26.58%
No 35 44.30%
Its not the federal governments place 20 25.32%
I have no idea, I'm too busy texting 3 3.80%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-31-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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There's no need for a commercial vehicle to be going over 67....too fast too much weight moving..too high a potential for injury..too stressful on drivers...

Easy fix.. governors by manufacturers... Most exist akready
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:14 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What a stupid idea. They would become a hazard on the road.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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There's no need for a commercial vehicle to be going over 67....too fast too much weight moving..too high a potential for injury..too stressful on drivers...

Easy fix.. governors by manufacturers... Most exist akready
I would think companies are concerned about fuel economy as well.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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Stupid idea. Mechanically limiting any vehicle or owned or driven by a politician to 68 is fine, though.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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There's no need for fat people, too much weight moving around, too high a potential for health related illnesses due to obesity, too much wasted resources to stuff their face and pay their medical bills, too stressful on those who have to view their blubber...

Easy fix, throw fatties into mass graves...governments create them all the time.

[End sarcasm]
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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the problem is not the truckers, they are getting the short stick because of the icc. the problems are the car darting in and out, high speeds in rain, slow speed on interstates, talking on phone, texting and just plain being stupid
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There's no need for a commercial vehicle to be going over 67....too fast too much weight moving..too high a potential for injury..too stressful on drivers...

Easy fix.. governors by manufacturers... Most exist akready
One of the stupidest ideas out there. You cause MORE accidents when you govern a vehicle. As was pointed out, it's the 4 wheelers, as truckers call them, that cause a LOT of accidents due to their impatience. Used to be that the truck driver got blamed for all accidents but as more and more drivers are installing cams not just on the dash, but with views up to 4 different areas around the truck, all the bullsh** of blaming truck drivers for the absolute stupidity of cars is coming to an end.

Part of the test at DMV needs to include a part about trucks on the road as it appears far too many are oblivious to some pretty major facts about trucks. The truckers are "professional" drivers. Anything that they do has harsher fines and sentences as law enforcement and government consider them professional drivers. They are not the ones causing most of the accidents.

Yes, there are stupid people driving trucks and a lot of that has to do with the schools that are churning out new students with barely any experience before being thrown out there on the road as a solo driver. Other companies that use team drivers have one driver driving, one sleeping so you may as well be solo. You can't shove someone in a truck after a few weeks class training and a month on the road with an instructor...that's asking for problems. They need to make the training much longer.

Again, however, when you govern a vehicle, you are causing problems. Impatience will go up as cars do more stupid crap around truckers, you take away their ability to avoid an accident because yes, sometimes you DO need that speed to avoid it...and having a truck involved makes it far more deadly.

How about all of those who have NO experience behind the wheel of a truck let the truck drivers tell you what works and what doesn't. It's like someone telling the cops how to do their jobs. People will run their mouths, but they don't have a damn clue what it's actually like...and anything they implement causes MORE harm, not less. You stick to your field of expertise, let the truckers do their job.

Keep the rotten government OUT of it.

As it is, truckers will be doing a 40mph day...can't remember the date offhand, but it's in total protest of all of this.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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When the speed limit was 55 mph, there was a lot of fudging of the hours/miles in the log books. Looks like that might be returning with trucks having lower speeds again.
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:14 PM
 
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It is not a real crime. If no one has been harmed, there is no victim, thus there is no crime. Speed however does increase one's liability if a victim does materialize from that liability. Just as someone lighting a match is not an arsonist until his flame burns down someone's property, lighting a match is not a crime against anyone. You are free to think otherwise, but if there is no victim, there is no crime...

I will grant you that speeding does increase one's liability, and IF they cause damage while speeding their punishment should be increased beyond that which someone driving at slower speeds would receive.

But we all know that victimless "crimes" or assumption of future guilt "laws" (regulations) are only created to destroy human freedom or to extort wealth from people...

Who said speeding was a crime,You. Speeding is a violation of the law in and of itself. It is also a violation to place the motoring public in danger by any and all reckless action whether a calamity occurs or not. Otherwise one could not get a citation till they caused personal or property damage.

We all know that speeding and reckless driving are far from victimless. Rather than destroying human freedom or extort wealth from people many laws are products of necessity and insistance from many of the citizens.

I am sure I am losing my freedom if violators are allowed to thwart our motor vehicle laws which were instituted to protect the citizen from violators. As in other violations of the law monetary punishment and/or worse is the usual conclusion. Those who have lost loved ones would prefer something else as punishment.

Since I have noticed the defense of speeding many times over I have a suggestion for those that have a need for speed. The race track--if you have the crotch. Go where it is legal and everyone else is speeding like you. My close relative who is 6 time late model champion at a local asphalt track has volunteered to break them in. That way the cowards don't have to place others on the public roads at risk.
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Old 08-31-2016, 11:45 PM
 
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We all know that speeding and reckless driving are far from victimless. Rather than destroying human freedom or extort wealth from people many laws are products of necessity and insistance from many of the citizens.
There is no safe speed other than what traffic is naturally flowing at, its the disruption to that natural flow of traffic such as governing how fast a vehicle can go that will cause accidents. If you want to get everyone to where they are going safer and faster:

  • Reasonable minimum speed limit of say 55MPH.
  • Aggressively ticket people that do not obey the drive right rule.
  • Aggressively ticket people that tailgate.
  • Aggressively ticket people that pass on the right side.
By implementing the bolded you eliminate a great deal of the last two. Obviously there is common sense things here where these rules do not apply such as very congested roadway and your lane is moving faster than the left one. By doing these things you improve the flow of traffic thus reducing accidents.
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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There's no need for a commercial vehicle to be going over 67....too fast too much weight moving..too high a potential for injury..too stressful on drivers...

Easy fix (emphasis added) ... governors by manufacturers ... Most exist already

Until you have ridden in the cab with a trucker operating in hilly territory, trying to conserve momentum and fuel for the next upgrade and frustrated by a "granny going forty", you will have no idea why those who make their living with a vehicle are so incensed over the prospect of sheltered "professionals" and suburbanites sitting in oversimplified judgment on this issue.
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