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Sorry, I wasn't precise. Demanding to see I.D. in many cases is not a request that one has to lawfully comply to.
“The citizen who has given no good cause for believing he is engaged in [criminal] activity is entitled to proceed on his way without interference” (Page 338 U. S. 177)
A detention just becomes an arrest or substantial detention where you aren't free to leave
You are required to id yourself if you have committed a crime..or are suspected of committing a crime
A mere fishing expedition ..no.. I can't just stop you absent any other reason and demand your I'd... but see my friend life rarely works that way...if you drew my attention to you I will have probable cause to detain you..that's how real life works..not internet lawyer advice
I never fish
Fish are friends not food
But hey. Try it and report back
Kudos to some very astute people in this thread... Some of you I repped and city data won't allow me to rep you again
Officers often lack the training to approach the mentally unstable, experts say
More than half the killings involved police agencies that have not provided their officers with state-of-the-art training to deal with the mentally ill. And in many cases, officers responded with tactics that quickly made a volatile situation even more dangerous.
“This a national crisis,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, an independent research organization devoted to improving policing. “We have to get American police to rethink how they handle encounters with the mentally ill. Training has to change.”
More than training has to change.
In January, for instance, Jonathan Guillory, a white 32-year-old father of two who had worked as a military contractor in Afghanistan, was having what his widow called a mental health emergency. He sought help at a Veterans Affairs hospital in Arizona, his wife, Maria Garcia, told local reporters, but the busy hospital turned him away. Jean Schaefer, a spokeswoman for the Veterans Health Administration in Phoenix, said the hospital had no record of Guillory’s visit. [/i]
Idiotic. The violently mentally ill belong in secure institutions, not free in public. Ever since liberals have demanded that the mentally ill be released on the general public in the 60s we have had this issue. The police have a responsibility to the safety and security of the general public, INCLUDING to protect them from the violently mentally ill. Police MUST do what they can to protect the public and themselves. They can't spend their entire careers babysitting the mentally ill. If a nutjob pulls a weapon on them and assumes ambient temperature as a result-so be it.
Sorry, I wasn't precise. Demanding to see I.D. in many cases is not a request that one has to lawfully comply to.
“The citizen who has given no good cause for believing he is engaged in [criminal] activity is entitled to proceed on his way without interference” (Page 338 U. S. 177)
Idiotic. The violently mentally ill belong in secure institutions, not free in public.
Maybe so.
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Ever since liberals have demanded that the mentally ill be released on the general public in the 60s we have had this issue. The police have a responsibility to the safety and security of the general public, INCLUDING to protect them from the violently mentally ill. Police MUST do what they can to protect the public and themselves. They can't spend their entire careers babysitting the mentally ill. If a nutjob pulls a weapon on them and assumes ambient temperature as a result-so be it.
We have 5150 WIC.. and that is being expanded to community paramedics who can commit,,,tsking the task away form a patrol officer.. and if they arent violent this is a good step
Police in third world countries are unrestrained in what they can do up to including murder on a regular basis.. there is no law that protects your rights.. you get stopped you answer their questions you pay them some money.. maybe you get beaten and robbed..maybe you get killed
If your mentally ill you are abandoned and victimized.. there is no patient bills of rights.. no hippa.. no mandatory reporters.. no soft green rooms no jello no food no treatment
There is no review process at the end of an ak47
Ive been on the third world on many occasions... we still arent that way..
Vote for Hillary and maybe we will head down that path sooner than later
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