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Old 10-19-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Wait what? So the police need to call a time out and get the courts involved when someone is pointing a gun at them. ROFLMAO!!! For a minute I thought you were serious. You should do comedy. That post is priceless.
Typical response when one is unable to actually address what someone says.

 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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The police do not determine that. We do not determine that. A court system with due process determines that.

If it was determined that she was mentally incompetent, it would not be a criminal act.
I really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's quite obvious you have a real problem with cops. Why is that?
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:47 AM
 
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The facts were that she had a weapon aimed at police. The facts were that she refused to drop the weapon.
It would appear to be the case.

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Her husband "said" she was armed with a BB gun. That is not a fact, but instead it is hearsay. Just as the family of the Charlotte victim "said" he was unarmed and only had a book.
That can be true.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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And while you're contemplating the situation, and mulling over whether the gun is real or not, and trying to decide if they're crazy enough, and considering if you can de-escalate the situation.......boom, you're dead.
And yet....it happens far more times like that as opposed to someone being dead.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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I really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's quite obvious you have a real problem with cops. Why is that?
I don't. I have a problem with bad ones, especially when they are not held accountable for their actions. As we all should be but it seems many aren't.

I doubt this is a case of "bad" ones. Maybe not trained enough to deal with the mentally ill but that isn't necessarily their fault.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Typical response when one is unable to actually address what someone says.
That is because your post made no sense. You want to give the criminal the benefit of the doubt. You are anti-cop. Probably a reason for that but it doesn't give a criminal the excuse to point a weapon at a police officer and expect him to back down. That is just asking to get shot.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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That is because your post made no sense. You want to give the criminal the benefit of the doubt.
That isn't what I said. There is no discussing things with someone that dishonestly wants to misrepresents what others say.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Are the anti-police people going to raise a big issue about every suicide-by-cop now?
 
Old 10-19-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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I have a peanut that could kill. She had a small handheld cheap BB gun. Did the officers know that? I do not know.
Her husband said in the 911 call that she had a weapon.

Why not just stick to cases of wrongdoing instead of trying to shoehorn every police shooting into the bad or questionable boxes?

At some point, the endless attempts to find some minute possible crack in the scenario just makes it look like a never-ending witch hunt.

Keep yelling about pretty clear cut cases and you are just making noise over the cases that deserve attention.
 
Old 10-19-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Are the anti-police people going to raise a big issue about every suicide-by-cop now?
We should decide to deal with problems like this before it ever gets to that point. It will never be perfect BUT it's better to provide the funds for someone to get help with a mental illness as opposed to continually paying out 7 figure settlements.
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