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Old 03-08-2017, 08:25 AM
 
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In many markets, younger people will come out better under Trump's plan. That's good, because one of Obamacare's fatal flaws was that it did not subsidize younger buyers, who really don't see much need, enough to encourage them to take out policies. It favored older people at their expense. This could, of course, be fixed without this abomination of a plan that Trump put out which is going to put health insurance out of reach for millions of middle and older people. Really, it would be far easier to just fix the problems and unintended consequences of the ACA legislation. Every new initiative like that has them and in a normal political environment they could have been addressed years ago.
This is it in a nutshell. We had the crazy, uncompromising Tea Party faction that has made fixing the ACA impossible. And this same faction will keep the GOP from doing anything else now unless it is total and complete destruction. It's hard to see where the Republicans go from here.

 
Old 03-08-2017, 08:56 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Increasing the money for a young person to sign up is a good thing, but if the insurance costs for older people in their 50's and beyond is increased from 3 times the premium price a 25 year-old pays to 5 or 7 times, that $4000 credit is just a drop in the bucket! If you go from having had to come up with $5000 of your own money and now have to come up with $14,000 or so, you're going to drop your coverage like a hot potato, because you now can't afford it!

The lower Medicaid block grant reimbursement will throw millions off the roles and those poorer states will not make up costs! In these poorer states, a built-in Republican Death Panel in Washington DC will result, whose members will not see the consequences of their actions when people die! We'll get that crap that "they went home to GEEEZUS!"
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Increasing the money for a young person to sign up is a good thing, but if the insurance costs for older people in their 50's and beyond is increased from 3 times the premium price a 25 year-old pays to 5 or 7 times, that $4000 credit is just a drop in the bucket! If you go from having had to come up with $5000 of your own money and now have to come up with $14,000 or so, you're going to drop your coverage like a hot potato, because you now can't afford it!

The lower Medicaid block grant reimbursement will throw millions off the roles and those poorer states will not make up costs! In these poorer states, a built-in Republican Death Panel in Washington DC will result, whose members will not see the consequences of their actions when people die! We'll get that crap that "they went home to GEEEZUS!"
Wait?

In your mind young people should pay more just cuz'?

But "I'm old and can't afford an increase"?
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Obamacare is dying, all the insurance companies are leaving , it can't be fixed. Democrats have known this for years and never did anything to fix it. .... now they expect the Pubs to clean up their mess? .....lol
The Republicans voted 52 times to repeal the ACA. If the ACA is so bad, now that the GOP has both Houses and the presidency, why haven't they voted to repeal it already?
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Wait?

In your mind young people should pay more just cuz'?

But "I'm old and can't afford an increase"?
What kind of decent national health plan pits young people against older ones? Sick versus healthy? Rich versus poor? Only in America, a nation too impoverished to pay for universal coverage.
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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I hope a lot of Republicans lose their health care coverage. Trump's their president, they have to smile and say thank you sir may I have another?
"I hope a lot of Republicans lose their health care coverage"

"Ignorance is bliss'

People in Congress can enroll in the "company" provided health care plan.
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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What kind of decent national health plan pits young people against older ones? Sick versus healthy? Rich versus poor? Only in America, a nation too impoverished to pay for universal coverage.

Really, really stupid. Divide us some more, spread the hate.
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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I hope a lot of Republicans lose their health care coverage. Trump's their president, they have to smile and say thank you sir may I have another?
They will, along with a lot of democrats who worked hard to prevent this. Is that funny too?
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:21 AM
 
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What kind of decent national health plan pits young people against older ones? Sick versus healthy? Rich versus poor? Only in America, a nation too impoverished to pay for universal coverage.
No we aren't. We have POS politicians on both sides that will not be responsible but then want to condemn the poor for being irresponsible .

We have trillions to waste in wasteful wars and billions to spend on Wall Street but we refuse to take care of our sick.

Then we have us that refuse to throw them out.
 
Old 03-08-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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AARP also highly touted Obamacare so they've lost any credibility they had...
AARP represents senior citizens who are a major voting block.
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