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No, it's why we need people to actually THINK, not just 'emote.' Furthermore, NONE of you have been able to prove that PPs aren't redundant and unnecessary. They exist where many more times the number of publicly-funded Family Planning/Women's Health Clinics already exist, and specifically target Black and Hispanic women who are 5 times and 2 times more likely, respectively, to have an abortion than White women. PP is a White supremacist eugenecist's dream, and here you all are defending that. Why? Because you don't think, you 'emote' without thinking.
That is what congress should have done since they seem to think that other clinics can cover the void. Yes there are other family planning clinics but PP supports around 60% of the demographic, so since you are the one claiming they are redundant let's see what you base that on.
Dear Trump supporters, your claim that PP needs to be refunded based on your weak morality claims fails miserably because the Hyde Amendment prevents tax money from being used for abortions. So there's that.
Secondly, no matter what you want or don't want, we will be paying somehow. If you don't want to pay for Planned Parenthood, then you get to pay the welfare monies that these unwanted babies will be supported on. And I guarantee welfare payments for these mothers and babies costs far more than years and years worth of birth control pills to prevent the unwanted pregnancies in the first place. Would you rather the mom be responsible and take the pills or you be responsible and pay for her and her kid?
That is what congress should have done since they seem to think that other clinics can cover the void. Yes there are other family planning clinics but PP supports around 60% of the demographic, so since you are the one claiming they are redundant let's see what you base that on.
BS. I posted a low-income Chicago zip code search. There were 22 publicly-funded Family Planning clinics located, only 5 of which were PPs. Those 5 serve 60% of the demographic while the other 17 only serves 40%? BS.
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Dear Trump supporters, your claim that PP needs to be refunded based on your weak morality claims fails miserably because the Hyde Amendment prevents tax money from being used for abortions. So there's that.
Secondly, no matter what you want or don't want, we will be paying somehow. If you don't want to pay for Planned Parenthood, then you get to pay the welfare monies that these unwanted babies will be supported on. And I guarantee welfare payments for these mothers and babies costs far more than years and years worth of birth control pills to prevent the unwanted pregnancies in the first place. Would you rather the mom be responsible and take the pills or you be responsible and pay for her and her kid?
Publicly fund the OTC morning after pill available at any pharmacy. Problem solved.
If they CAN'T PROVIDE for the children the reproduce, maybe the shouldn't.
I SHOULD have the right to keep the money I earn.
Taking what I earn and giving to people who reproduce and CAN"T afford the kids should NOT be the burden on the rest of us
Ever hear of adoption? You don't have the right to tell others whether they should or shouldn't have children. Would you like the USA to have a policy like China? Or wold you rather live free?
Besides, financial difficulties are usually temporary.
BS. I posted a low-income Chicago zip code search. There were 22 publicly-funded Family Planning clinics located, only 5 of which were PPs. Those 5 serve 60% of the demographic while the other 17 only serves 40%? BS.
Anecdotes don't amount to data but even your own example indicates that PP serves 60% of that demographic. Do you know the distances, capacity, access, by the way there are clinics and the there are clinics. I guess we will see after they pull the finding but some states, you seem to have more confidence than congress that passed the bill. Maybe you can point to an article that supports your point of view.
Here's an article from the LA Times.
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But health policy experts say that community clinics are already overburdened with patients and cannot, suddenly, expand to pick up the hundreds of thousands of people who would no longer be served at Planned Parenthood clinics.
Representatives of many of the community clinics agree with that assessment. “Eliminating Planned Parenthood from our state’s comprehensive network of care would put untenable stress on remaining providers,” wrote an official of the California Primary Care Assn., which representsCalifornia community clinics, in a letter to Sen. Barbara Boxer last year. “We do not have the capacity for such an increase in care.
Ever hear of adoption? You don't have the right to tell others whether they should or shouldn't have children. Would you like the USA to have a policy like China? Or wold you rather live free?
Besides, financial difficulties are usually temporary.
You're joking, right? That is simply not true for many millions of us here in America. We can work every waking hour of every day and still not earn enough to pay the bills.
Thats not making a mockery out of personal responsibility. Thats plain common sense. If you know the risks involved in the behavior you seek to engage in do you still risk it?
The "failure" here is the failure to see the big picture about Planned Parenthood: Its historic core services are birth control and abortion, but it also provides everyday health services - gyno exams, cancer screenings, any treatments necessary - to uninsured women, underinsured women, and women on Medicaid.
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Abortions and birth control are a small part of what PP does. Most of what they do is provide women who can't afford it, medical care. Of course, Republicans are showing that really don't care about women's health, just showing off to the anti-arbortion base.
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Seems to me that taxpayer funding of these clinics makes financial and practical sense for many reasons, not the least of which is the cost of social programs to support unwanted children.
Conservatives don't want to hear that, nor do they want to support the children that are born because abortions aren't available and birth control isn't accessible. They are not pro-life; they're just pro-pregnancy.
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If thats true, why is it called "Planned Parenthood" instead of "Womens Health Clinic"
Why is Burger King called Burger King when it serves chicken?
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Why should my tax money support them.
Because it's what you do when you're a member of a society. If you don't like it, then go live elsewhere.
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BS. I posted a low-income Chicago zip code search. There were 22 publicly-funded Family Planning clinics located, only 5 of which were PPs. Those 5 serve 60% of the demographic while the other 17 only serves 40%? BS.
And I'd be willing to bet that every single one of those clinics are stretched to the max and underfunded. How would eliminating 25 percent of them provide better service to their patients?
Vice President Mike Pence cast the tie-breaking vote in the Senate on Thursday to overturn an Obama administration rule and allow states to withhold Title X family planning money from Planned Parenthood.
This rule is less than 8 years old. Don't see how it can be that disasterous to return back a whole 8 years.
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