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Old 04-02-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Sure, they should be able to manage their own fertility. But if/when they don't/won't? Women can say no to sex.
you probably have never the victim of date rape or know many women who have been. many young boys and men do not take no for an answer. they continue to plead, pressure and use their superior strength to achieve their goals. this kind of pressure happens almost as a normal way on many teen dates.
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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you probably have never the victim of date rape or know many women who have been.
Pregnancy resulting from actual date rape isn't a significant statistic. If you have info otherwise, prove it.
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Pregnancy resulting from actual date rape isn't a significant statistic. If you have info otherwise, prove it.
Oh. My. God!
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: PSL
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Grasping for strings going from enabling poor choices, throwing personal responsibility for ones actions out of the window, defending frivolous behavior, to mens fault for no birth control, to rape. What's next?
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Grasping for strings going from enabling poor choices, throwing personal responsibility for ones actions out of the window, defending frivolous behavior, to mens fault for no birth control, to rape. What's next?
Making a mockery out of "personal responsibility", acting like Planned Parenthood's only clients are unwed, "loose" women; acting like rape is no big deal. . . oh wait, that's already been said. I can't imagine what's next.
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Old 04-02-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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Pregnancy resulting from actual date rape isn't a significant statistic. If you have info otherwise, prove it.
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Grasping for strings going from enabling poor choices, throwing personal responsibility for ones actions out of the window, defending frivolous behavior, to mens fault for no birth control, to rape. What's next?
this mentality is why we need more PPs not less.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Making a mockery out of "personal responsibility", acting like Planned Parenthood's only clients are unwed, "loose" women; acting like rape is no big deal. . . oh wait, that's already been said. I can't imagine what's next.
Thats not making a mockery out of personal responsibility. Thats plain common sense. If you know the risks involved in the behavior you seek to engage in do you still risk it? It's not a loose woman only issue. I look down on dudes who need another notch in their belt to correct their mommy/daddy issues, or to feel more like a man. Thats a morality and parenting failure issue.

Same as robing a house in hopes to find cash. Wind up getting away, slim chance, arrested in the act, probable chance, or shot by the homeowner. Is it worth the risk?

Why not think 5 minutes, 5 hours, 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 months, 5 years from now?
If your priorities are instant gratification with substantial consequences then you're a simpleton. Defending that and those who do make you an idiot. Suggesting taxation to fund the issue instead of solving it is lunacy.

Preparation prevents poor performance/results.

I never said rape is no big deal. Weak arguments and changing the "issue" is the big deal.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: PSL
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this mentality is why we need more PPs not less.
Why? If you are responsible, are smart or at least know the risks involved, have standards, value your future and well being and don't live for the here and now PP wouldn't be needed...
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Constitutional USA, zn.8A
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You'll keep more of your money if you pay for the damn abortion now,

than having to pay a lot more taxes for the first 18 years of the kids' life and then maybe jail later on! Do the math!
The practice of Saving money is good.

But that does not justify Intentionally murdering... even 1 innocent preborn, or partially born child/ren,
no less by the millions.
The Individual, & Societal cost is far too great, to justify Intentionally murder.
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Old 04-02-2017, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Abortions and birth control are a small part of what PP does. Most of what they do is provide women who can't afford it, medical care. Of course, Republicans are showing that really don't care about women's health, just showing off to the anti-arbortion base.
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