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Old 06-16-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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"She admits in ... texts that she did nothing: She did not call the police or Mr. Roy's family" after hearing his last breaths during a phone call, Moniz said. "And finally, she did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck."

I think this is the deciding factor of her sentencing.

For me the bold is the line. She didn't do anything to stop him, she wanted him to kill himself.
He also got scared and got out of the truck stating he was scared and confused and she told him to get back in!!
I am not going to fight about the legality of it all, I am just happy she will be off the streets for a while. She is a sociopath.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Formerly New England now Texas!
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She was his girlfriend I believe-and she listened to him while he took his last breaths and died. Pretty sick stuff-but both of them had history of mental illness. Very sad.
How does one listen to last breaths via text message?
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Not disputing that the court disagrees with me. I disagree with the court.
well, you are entitled to your opinion. But for somebody (me) who actually lost somebody to suicide, I believe this is definitely a sick woman who should be punished.

I lost my late boyfriend almost eight years ago, even though I have moved on already, I sometimes still wish he could've done it in front of me, so I could have stopped him.

I also lost couple of childhood friends to suicide, I also wish they could have done it in front of me, So i at least had a chance to stop them.

It is not about what she said, couple argue ALL.THE.TIME. It is about she did not do anything to stop him and she wanted him to die. Sometimes, all we want is a last chance of saving somebody.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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"She admits in ... texts that she did nothing: She did not call the police or Mr. Roy's family" after hearing his last breaths during a phone call, Moniz said. "And finally, she did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck."

I think this is the deciding factor of her sentencing.

For me the bold is the line. She didn't do anything to stop him, she wanted him to kill himself. Very different from "Oh, I never knew he was suicidal, I thought he just wanted to scare me" situation.
But in the end he acted of his own volition. She wasn't standing next to the car, preventing him from getting out. I'm not defending her actions, which I find morally repugnant, but I am questioning whether she should be charged with manslaughter because someone follows through on a threat to kill themselves. It seems a dangerous precedent to set.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Austin
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But in the end he acted of his own volition. She wasn't standing next to the car, preventing him from getting out. I'm not defending her actions, which I find morally repugnant, but I am questioning whether she should be charged with manslaughter because someone follows through on a threat to kill themselves. It seems a dangerous precedent to set.
Agree. A suicides' choice is tragic.

Blaming another for a suicides' decision to kill himself/herself is unfair.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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But in the end he acted of his own volition. She wasn't standing next to the car, preventing him from getting out. I'm not defending her actions, which I find morally repugnant, but I am questioning whether she should be charged with manslaughter because someone follows through on a threat to kill themselves. It seems a dangerous precedent to set.
I can see your point, but I do believe justice has been served in her case. well, this is just one of those situations you don't feel bad for the person at all. =) yeah sucks to be her.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:06 PM
 
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I can see your point, but I do believe justice is served in her case.
The problem, Lily, is that this ruling, if it stands, could now be used as precedent in other cases. Now people who don't prevent another person from taking their own life could be held liable because there is case law that supports it. That's the slippery slope we're on here.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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How does one listen to last breaths via text message?
apparently they were talking on the phone at the time that he was gassing himself in his truck.

i think this is worse than bullying. in fact, i see it as a form of bullying. he trusted her and thought she loved him and he was clearly confused and mentally not well. she knew that. i think she should have been charged and glad that she was. what happens to her next? jail time and she needs psychological help. she needs to be punished for her actions and then she needs help before she is let back out there in the world.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The problem, Lily, is that this case, if it stands, could now be used as precedent in other cases. Now people who don't prevent another person from taking their own life could be held liable because there is case law that supports it. That's the slippery slope we're on here.
I understand the point you are trying to make. Believe me, I have been blamed by somebody for my boyfriend's suicide. Somebody even told me I had blood in my hands because I did not do ENOUGH to stop him as if I knew on that day, he could've killed himself.

However, She admits in ... texts that she did nothing: She did not call the police or Mr. Roy's family" after hearing his last breaths during a phone call, Moniz said. "And finally, she did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck.

I really do believe the bold is the deciding factor of her sentencing. It is like watching somebody die a painful death with a smile on the face. It's plain sick.

I don't think any sane person would have done what she has done. I so wish I could have one last chance to save my friends and my late boyfriend. Even typing this is painful to me.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Good. I hope she get's the smallest cell with a biggest girl in the prison. 20 years isn't enough for this monster.
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