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Old 06-20-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Five feet is practically a mid-air collision, and probably looked a lot like one about to happen to the RC crew. The article doesn't say it, but I suspect it cut the RC's mission short.


That is a rather big deal. It's essentially an attack.


It also points out that Russian "retaliation" may not and need not occur in the same theater as the

provocation.


I'd also point out that US fighters would consider a target radar lock-on to be the same thing as an actual missile release
.
What is that based on?
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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What is that based on?
Years of listening to them say so. In these days of BVR targeting, the first pilot to launch wins.


I don't care what anyone says on television, if a fighter pilot gets locked on out in the real world, he's going to respond with "extreme vigor."
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:47 PM
 
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I don't have a problem with this.

However I would not want it to be a disaster like the pullout of Saigon at the end of the Vietnam war.

The disaster of Vietnam was going to war where we didn't belong in the first place.
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:49 PM
 
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We are not that intimately involved in Syria. Yet. Unfortunately Trump seems willing for us to remain there, and get that involved.

Who remembers when Trump said being in syria was bad? Its like his twitter history is a list of things he thinks are bad, that he then does.
Yep, he's as stupid and hypocritical as Obama. Again, no change.
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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Years of listening to them say so. In these days of BVR targeting, the first pilot to launch wins.


I don't care what anyone says on television, if a fighter pilot gets locked on out in the real world, he's going to respond with "extreme vigor."
So, when these guys are out playing they never get locked on, or are stories of response with extreme vigor regularly suppressed?
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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I didn't ignore it. I didn't bring it up because it's irrelevant....
Absolutely not. It absolves Trump of any legal issues with being in Syria. If a crime was committed about going in, it's on Obama's head. Not Trump.
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As you conveniently ignore Trump has had 5 months to get us uninvolved and done nothing to start that process. Mae up your mind, Obama either did the right thing or the wrong thing that Trump is prolonging. Which is it?
Nothing illegal about that. Next.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Nothing illegal about that. Next.
No next until you answer the question asked.

I'll ask again: Either Obama did the right thing going into Syria or the wrong thing which Trump is prolonging.

WHICH is it?

Or is that just too difficult a question for you to take a position on other than I wuv widdle Donny and he's never wrong even when he is?
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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No next until you answer the question asked.

I'll ask again: Either Obama did the right thing going into Syria or the wrong thing which Trump is prolonging.

WHICH is it?

Or is that just too difficult a question for you to take a position on other than I wuv widdle Donny and he's never wrong even when he is?
LOL. Waldo can't answer until they figure out how to make it wrong for Obama, but good for Trump.

Come on folks, critical thinking here.

Here is Trump saying he would end the support for Syria rebels during his campaign for those who have forgotten:

Donald Trump signifies he will end US support for Syrian rebels despite their pleas to him for help | The Independent

more lies of course.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:11 PM
 
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Apparently we have a president who takes responsibility for absolutely nothing.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:13 PM
 
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There is nothing incompatible in admiring how Putin puts his country & people first and also understanding that because of it, he should not be taken lightly. I do admire Putin for this. It's a marked difference from Obama who made apologies on the world stage for being American and selling out Americans to the globalists. With that said, Putin automatically becoms an enemy when he threatens US interests.

Critically thinking adults know this. Too bad you can't figure it out. Then again your only argument, time after time, is to attack the messenger rather than address the message.

How specifically does Putin put his people first?
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