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Old 07-29-2017, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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It's Britain. I'm sure they'll catch these guys and give them a stern talking to plus another series of job training and whatnot.
A person guilty of rape is liable on conviction in the UK, is usually given a sentence based on the factors known as aggravating factors in circumstances such as these the Judge has at it's disposal the ability to imprisonment for life impose and to set a reccommended period of time before parole can be applied for.

The individuals responsible will be given very long prison sentences, in not very pleasant surroundings.

Not sure why this is in politics and controversy as there are people raped and urdered every day in numerous parts of the world, or is it to do with the offenders being Asian???

By the way one of the reasons we call people Asian is because Pakistan and India do not get on well and there was a war after Insian inependence between the two, as for religion their religion is unkown so we can't say they are Muslim. Indeed India is mainly Hindu and of course there are Sikhs as well and other religions.

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Old 07-29-2017, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I think that the use of the word Asian here is political. It is also controversial.
The use of the word Asian is not political or controversial, its just what Brits call people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. and have done for a very very long time. Its not obscuring the identity - everyone in Britain knows what Asian means, and its British news. Try and do a little research before making idiotic claims next time.
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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The use of the word Asian is not political or controversial, its just what Brits call people from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc. and have done for a very very long time. Its not obscuring the identity - everyone in Britain knows what Asian means, and its British news. Try and do a little research before making idiotic claims next time.
I'll ask again.

Is the term "Middle Eastern" not used in Britain?

The men in the CCTV stills do not look to be from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. They look to be Arab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs

What idiotic claim have I made? These perpetrators were described as Asian. Asia is a massive place, encompassing a huge range of physical features. It means nothing to say that these guys were Asian. Why even bother to say they appear Asian if it doesn't help to describe their physical features?

Why must you insult me?

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Old 07-29-2017, 05:34 AM
 
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I'll ask again.

Is the term "Middle Eastern" not used in Britain?

The men in the CCTV stills do not look to be from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka. They look to be Arab.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs

What idiotic claim have I made? These perpetrators were described as Asian. Asia is a massive place, encompassing a huge range of physical features. It means nothing to say that these guys were Asian. Why even bother to say they appear Asain if it doesn't describe them?
British Arabs - Wikipedia

British Asian - Wikipedia

East Asians in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
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Old 07-29-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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In light of the links you provided, I would describe these guys as British Arabs.

To describe them as Asian is not accurate.

It's like describing an African American or Latino as "North American."
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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In light of the links you provided, I would describe these guys as British Arabs.

To describe them as Asian is not accurate.

It's like describing an African American or Latino as "North American."
It could also be the terminology of the media or police rather than the victim. Did you ever notice when any victim anywhere supposedly ID's a perp they never describe them as a bleepity bleepin SOB (insert your choice of racial/ethnic/religious slur here)? I mean never do they. I think the police or the media give you a PC version of the description. I wouldn't put it past the BBC to do it. Not sure about the police.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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In light of the links you provided, I would describe these guys as British Arabs.

To describe them as Asian is not accurate.

It's like describing an African American or Latino as "North American."
Ethnicity is generally something for the British Police IC Codes - I don't know if they were demmed IC4 or IC6, but there are reliable descriptions and photos of people the police want to speak to.

IC codes - Wikipedia

IC1 White - North European

IC2 White - South European

IC3 - Black

IC4 - South Asian

IC5 - Chinese, Japanese, or other Southeast Asian

IC6 - North African or Arabic

IC9 / IC0 Unknown
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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Ethnicity is generally something for the British Police IC Codes.

IC codes - Wikipedia

IC1 White - North European

IC2 White - South European

IC3 Black

IC4 South Asian

IC5 Chinese, Japanese, or other Southeast Asian

IC6 North African or Arabic

IC9 / IC0 Unknown

What's your point?
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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A person guilty of rape is liable on conviction in the UK, is usually given a sentence based on the factors known as aggravating factors in circumstances such as these the Judge has at it's disposal the ability to imprisonment for life impose and to set a reccommended period of time before parole can be applied for.

The individuals responsible will be given very long prison sentences, in not very pleasant surroundings.

Not sure why this is in politics and controversy as there are people raped and urdered every day in numerous parts of the world, or is it to do with the offenders being Asian???

By the way one of the reasons we call people Asian is because Pakistan and India do not get on well and there was a war after Insian inependence between the two, as for religion their religion is unkown so we can't say they are Muslim. Indeed India is mainly Hindu and of course there are Sikhs as well and other religions.
Because some posters think the UK has gone to hell in a handbasket because of Muslim migrants/immigrants.

They are paranoid the same thing will happen here - hence Trump.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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What's your point?
My point being the police generally give a discription and IC Number in the UK.

If they are looking for a white suspect they generally radio through suspect IC-1 Male around 6 Feet tall and 180lbs, wearing jeans, t-shirt, trainers, seen running in a westerly direction etc etc.

Why what's your point.
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