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Excuse you , but White people telling Asians what to be offended by doesn't work. As an Asian I'm offended by "Oriental" because I'm not an Object. Over sensitivity? Hilarious to hear a White person try to tell others what they shouldn't be offended by. Going through this thread your posts are highly suspect anyways. Your anti Diversity rants say a lot about who you are.
How does "Oriental" imply that anyone is an object? If someone from Connecticut is referred to as a "Easterner" does it imply that they are an object?
Excuse you , but White people telling Asians what to be offended by doesn't work. As an Asian I'm offended by "Oriental" because I'm not an Object. Over sensitivity? Hilarious to hear a White person try to tell others what they shouldn't be offended by. Going through this thread your posts are highly suspect anyways. Your anti Diversity rants say a lot about who you are.
You're not an object? Are you a ghost or supernatural? It's one thing for Asians to say they'd prefer to be identified as Asian, but to claim a negative connotation even offensive when there isn't any just to tell white people to change their language and dictate what they can and can't say is another. You're post is the one that is suspect.
"Oriental" was the normal term in the early to mid 60's, and at least to me never had a negative connotation. I think it was liberals, not 'Orientals' themselves, who decided that it was offensive. A few years ago in my state (WA) the democrat-controlled legislature decided to remove all references to "Oriental" from state laws. Ironically, the biggest objections came from practitioners of "Oriental medicine" who wanted to be able to keep using this nomenclature.
Instead of getting all worked up about not being PC or liberal this or that, and knee-jerk opposing something just because of its identification with an ideology, why don't you just ask one of us what's appropriate?
I'm Chinese American, and to refer to someone of my ethnicity/heritage as "Oriental" is akin to calling black or African Americans "Negroes". It's not necessarily really offensive but it is archaic and outdated. If you insist on using that after advisement that you should use another term - it speaks poorly about your consideration of how other people prefer to be called or referred as.
A general rule - Oriental refers to rugs and inanimate objects. You call people by what they want to be called. Common courtesy.
My Brit friend calls someone who looks Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, Korean, etc. "Chinaman." Never heard him reference a woman so not sure what he'd say. I always preferred the term Oriental because it sounds exotic and special.
Your friend is using a racial slur and stereotyping all East Asians. In case you don't know. I'm going to charitably give you the benefit of the doubt here.
Actually a lot of us don't like the word Oriental when it refers to people because it HAS that connotation of being exotic - and it tends to marginalize us here in the US. Please take note.
Instead of getting all worked up about not being PC or liberal this or that, and knee-jerk opposing something just because of its identification with an ideology, why don't you just ask one of us what's appropriate?
I'm Chinese American, and to refer to someone of my ethnicity/heritage as "Oriental" is akin to calling black or African Americans "Negroes". It's not necessarily really offensive but it is archaic and outdated. If you insist on using that after advisement that you should use another term - it speaks poorly about your consideration of how other people prefer to be called or referred as.
A general rule - Oriental refers to rugs and inanimate objects. You call people by what they want to be called. Common courtesy.
I'm still confused. Why, exactly, is "Oriental" now considered an offensive term. "The Orient" is a specific region of the world. What else would you call someone from there? It would appear no more offensive than say European-American (or just European if we aren't talking about an American citizen), African/African American, or Canadian. Honestly want to understand.
I'm still confused. Why, exactly, is "Oriental" now considered an offensive term. "The Orient" is a specific region of the world. What else would you call someone from there? It would appear no more offensive than say European-American (or just European if we aren't talking about an American citizen), African/African American, or Canadian. Honestly want to understand.
Try Asian. Or the country they hail from, such as Japanese, Indian, Chinese, Malaysian.
They sure are reluctant to accurately describe these men. Asian? Really?
"The first is described as Asian in his early 20s, approximately 6ft and of slim build. The second is also described as Asian, aged in his early 20s, 5ft 6in to 5ft 7in with a large build and tight beard."
Try Asian. Or the country they hail from, such as Japanese, Indian, Chinese, Malaysian.
It's not that hard, really.
I couldn't necessarily tell a Polish from a Hungarian could you? And you expect me recognize all the nationalities from Asia? I don't get why an East Asian would want to be lumped together with a Pakistani. I know I don't accept being lumped in with Turkish and the rest of the middle east and north Africa.
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