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View Poll Results: Who has your support the most
Trump is my guy. 15 65.22%
Bannon represents the true values of the alt/right...I'll stick with him 4 17.39%
I'll support both..no matter how far apart they get 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2017, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Thanks for your assessment

I'm asking if one's support is for the alt/right philosophy as expressed by Bannon...or are they for Trump..regardless of how far he may stray from what got him elected.
Excellent question.

I don't think anyone is prepared to judge the situation yet, nor do they want to face the choice. Some seem to think that Bannon will support Trump. I think Trump will try to play both sides for a while, but he can't keep it up.

He's either the guy from the press conference call Nazi associates fine people, or he's teleprompter Trump obeying the generals and Jared.

I think Trump is going to end up at war with someone.

I think it will be interesting to watch it play out, though.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:25 PM
 
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I'm not Alt Right, I am independent, so I like both Trump and Bannon.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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I'm juss sayin...isn't the opinion of an Afghan shopkeeper more important than even the opinion of the POTUS, who ain't even from Afghanistan?

Has it ever dawned on the American people that they want us to get the hell out of their country and leave them to their own matters? If your answer is that frankly, you don't even know what they want, doesn't that strike you as extreme arrogance? Why does it matter what Trump wants?
I think the answer might be:

Invest billions to develop our mineral resources so we can then nationalize them and make our elites wealthy.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:52 PM
 
Location: FL
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It's the same nonsense Obama spoke, the same blank check policy. The same old "we have to uphold the honor of those who served." We don't honor those who died in a losing cause by sending more to be killed.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:01 PM
 
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Have we been doing something different in the last 16 years?
We aren't announcing every move we make... that's different.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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I don't think Trump wants to be there, the establishment is holding him hostage over the neo-Nazi meme and probably the Russia meme to coerce him to do the globalist thing.

No one asks us what we want for our country. even if we vote for something the establishment just goes ahead and does what it wants to anyway.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:18 PM
 
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OK..figure this out..if we are not there..they won't be attacking.
Every time I hear a statement like that, I see the images of people jumping out of buildings that are on fire.

Innocent people who went to work one day not knowing they were the target of terrorists.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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I don't think Trump wants to be there, the establishment is holding him hostage over the neo-Nazi meme and probably the Russia meme to coerce him to do the globalist thing.

No one asks us what we want for our country. even if we vote for something the establishment just goes ahead and does what it wants to anyway.
Ok, fair enough for Americans in the United States.

But what about Americans trying to determine the outcome in another nation that isn't ours? That's not arrogance?
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:37 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The concern at this point is if we pull out and leave a significantly weakened admin in place, the joint will quickly be overrun by thugs and become a breeding ground for ISIS to kick off the next wave of terrorist attacks in Europe and America. Similar to what happened in Iraq. This is a major consequence of long-term occupation, aka "you break it, you buy it.". That's why they call the situation a quagmire.
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Afghans want to live with tribal vendettas that have existed for hundreds of years and be left alone to do so, by the outside world. The constant shifting, warring and jockeying for power amongst each tribal unit has existed for thousands of years. It is their political system.
The current rulers only exist because America props them up with money and military aid.
They, more than any other nation, insist on living in the 16th century and they'll kill anybody who tries to change that, or occupy their nation, telling them what to do and how to live.
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