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Old 09-02-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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I am for killing terrorists. Big difference.


No different than using an exterminator to eliminate household pests.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Yea its not like the US adventurism in the middle east is making terrorism worse or anything like that
Better to kill them there than here.

And I am not one of those apologists who blame the US for being attacked.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Better to kill them there than here.

And I am not one of those apologists who blame the US for being attacked.
This is really outside the scope of the thread but I will say this we should focus on domestic security not invading sovereign nations the US is not an empire.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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This is really outside the scope of the thread but I will say this we should focus on domestic security not invading sovereign nations the US is not an empire.
Regardless, I am totally against the welfare state.

I want all welfare done away with. Work or starve. Hunger is a great motivator.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Are you saying all other countries with universal country are lazy? Canadians, especially Blue-collar Albertans beg to differ. They know they are getting their money's worth and the system will always be there for them. And they wouldn't trade it for a U.S style private health care system.
I think there is a huge disassociation between the people and government in the USA.

All countries have that to a degree, including Canada, but I believe we still hang on to the idea that the government is the people, and that they work for us.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Regardless, I am totally against the welfare state.

I want all welfare done away with. Work or starve. Hunger is a great motivator.
So you want the US to turn into Brazil?
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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Better to kill them there than here.

And I am not one of those apologists who blame the US for being attacked.
ditto

Nor do I apologize for what happens to them, or their nations, when we take action.

Analogy: IMO, Hiroshima was caused by Japanese aggression. Starting against USA with Pearl Harbor. We just finished the job.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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So you want the US to turn into Brazil?
The US will never turn into a banana republic.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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For example universal healthcare should be a no brainer the US is one of the least efficient countries when it comes to healthcare as a advanced nation. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...east-efficient

The same goes for robust welfare programs many working class people would stand to gain alot by having strong systems in place to protect them from poverty if a job is lost. It honestly makes no sense to me. Looking for some clarification.
Because we have a Constitution that limits the power of the Federal Government, and some of us value Liberty more than "security" and slavery.

I don't call returning to serfdom ("progressivism") an "advancement." It's the exact opposite.

Our health care system (before Obamacare) was the best in the world.

I found myself unemployed (laid off) a couple of times. I got on the phone and started calling companies, asking to speak with the marketing manager directly. I had a job within weeks of that layoff. Hadn't even gone through my severance pay yet. The next time, a year later, I was laid off again due to the plant closing. I was given six weeks severance. Again I got on the phone (to one of my former bosses). I was hired immediately. I never lost a day of work.

The final time, I again got on the phone. Found a job within weeks.
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Old 09-02-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The US will never turn into a banana republic.
It will if you cut programs that help the poor.
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