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I feel this law will drastically force up the cost of desirable breeds to where only the wealthy will be able to afford them, because it will drastically reduce the supply.
And I wouldn't want to be forced to own a mutt, I've never wanted a mutt. I only like three breeds of dog: pug, French Bulldog and English Bulldog. These are already pricy enough as it is. If the supply is cut down, price will go up and up.
Sad thing is that I am a liberal, if any of you have followed my posting history here, but I just can't agree with this law
Wanting a specific breed doesn't make you a bad person.
I have a Yorkie and a Westie - both purchased from breeders - carefully researched (especially for the yorkie since they are prime puppy mill breeding machines).
I just would not purchase from a pet store - that's all.
My first dog of my own was a Maltese that I saw in Petland. I didn't know about puppy mills necessarily back then - but I knew Petland was charging $3000. I researched breeders - found one pretty close to me and purchased a 'pet price dog' from a show breeder. He had only one testicle so couldn't be shown. I didn't care about shows and wasn't going to breed so . . what did I care? He was a perfect companion and gentleman.
The maltese puppy at Petland was a LOT more and probably came straight outta puppy mill.
Because at the end of the day, they came from a puppy mill. Either you understand the concept of a puppy mill is or you do not. I don't think you do.
If your dogs have no health issues--particularly such health problem-prone dogs as pugs and French bulldogs--you are lucky.
My concept of a puppy mill is these poor creatures kept in cages for breeding purposes only. I love dogs so of course I believe a puppy mill operator should be executed. But is that justice?
Look at how cattle are treated in feedlots. Cattle are not cute and cuddly but they are great animals. Look at a mother cow with her calves, they are great, protective mothers. Their calves are taken away from them, put in pens and force fed high protein so they can get to weight as quickly as possible and slaughtered for their meat. The feed would kill them if they weren't slaughtered.
It's a business and they are animals. I hate it but there is very little I can do about it except buy grass raised, organic beef which I do.
Our pups we bought from a family that raises one littler a year. Their female lives like a queen in their house as their family pet and the father of her pups does the same in another house. We verified all. When we went to visit the pups they were playing with their 5 children who were all under the age of 10 at the time. To this day our dogs are so good with kids.
Is that a puppy mill to you? I've been told yes, it is before.
Is that a puppy mill to you? I've been told yes, it is before.
No.
Whether it's a good breeder, I don't know because I don't know the health of the parent dogs, nor do I know the screening process of who they sell to or if they have waiting lists for their puppies.
But no, that's not what a puppy mill is at all, due to the scale of the operation.
Wrong. Almost every single animal that I rescued (well over 30) was dumped out "in the wild" by people with this concept. "Put them back in the wild." Let me tell you something, they don't survive in the wild. AT. ALL.
Not even the ferals survive in the wild. I lived out in the Everglades for almost 5 years. I've seen my share, and then some, of "put them back in the wild" animals. The only ones who made it are the ones that were rescued. Not a single other dog or cat survived out there.
Further, 'put them back in the wild' is the wrong answer when someone has something like an iguana, or a snake, or even fish. As an example, iguana and pythons are not native to the Everglades and actually destroy the native flora and fauna.
We have enough animals right now without breeding any more. The ones we have need to be taken care of, not dumped off like they are garbage.
Agreed. We domesticated them. We are now responsible for them.
My concept of a puppy mill is these poor creatures kept in cages for breeding purposes only. I love dogs so of course I believe a puppy mill operator should be executed. But is that justice?
Look at how cattle are treated in feedlots. Cattle are not cute and cuddly but they are great animals. Look at a mother cow with her calves, they are great, protective mothers. Their calves are taken away from them, put in pens and force fed high protein so they can get to weight as quickly as possible and slaughtered for their meat. The feed would kill them if they weren't slaughtered.
It's a business and they are animals. I hate it but there is very little I can do about it except buy grass raised, organic beef which I do.
Our pups we bought from a family that raises one littler a year. Their female lives like a queen in their house as their family pet and the father of her pups does the same in another house. We verified all. When we went to visit the pups they were playing with their 5 children who were all under the age of 10 at the time. To this day our dogs are so good with kids.
Is that a puppy mill to you? I've been told yes, it is before.
That is not a puppy mill to me. I bought from a small scale breeder myself. But I did get to go and visit and interact with her two females (and her retired pets) as well.
They were family and interacted like well-socialized and behaved pets.
To me - that is not a puppy mill.
Our cruel meat industry is another story; I'm down to chicken but I haven't given it up yet. Pork and Beef are out at our house - my son is a pescetarian (sp?). The only meat he eats is fish.
That is not a puppy mill to me. I bought from a small scale breeder myself. But I did get to go and visit and interact with her two females (and her retired pets) as well.
They were family and interacted like well-socialized and behaved pets.
To me - that is not a puppy mill.
Our cruel meat industry is another story; I'm down to chicken but I haven't given it up yet. Pork and Beef are out at our house - my son is a pescetarian (sp?). The only meat he eats is fish.
I think we would all be better people if we eliminated commercial feedlots and puppy mills. There is not partisanship in that. That is just humanity.
Meat and puppies would be much more expensive. I think all of us are fine with that.
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I think we would all be better people if we eliminated commercial feedlots and puppy mills. There is not partisanship in that. That is just humanity.
Meat and puppies would be much more expensive. I think all of us are fine with that.
I'm not ok with that, I like my hamburgers and fried chicken and don't want to pay $30 for a hamburger, or $20 for a 4 piece tenders at Church's
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