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View Poll Results: Antifa is a terrorist group and should be forbidden or not?
Antifa should not be allowed as it should be labeled a terrorist/hate group 83 65.35%
Antifa should be allowed 44 34.65%
Voters: 127. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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To my knowledge, antifa doesn't promote violence, but they match it. They meet noise with noise, demonstrations with demonstrations, and if violence breaks out, with violence. The whole objective is to deny Nazis and fascists getting away with anything. They don't avoid or ignore the nazis, they confront them in kind wherever they are.

The fascists never disappeared in Europe after the war. Spain, Italy, France, and later Germany all saw a rebirth of all the old fascist movements, not just the Nazis. The movement started in Europe as opposition to the neo-Nazi and neo-fascists there.

The rise of similar groups and the KKK here prompted the European model of opposition to come about here.
You would be wrong about that. CNN did a special on them about a week ago. They believe that speech is violence. They believe that violence is justified if it shuts down speech that they don't like. They have been instigating violence and destruction of property. We saw it first hand at Berkeley when they violently attacked civilians who were just walking down the street. They were also setting fires and smashing windows.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Japan
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You sure you want that?
Yes. It would be better all around if nobody came to a demonstration wearing a mask... although I realize that thinking in terms of what is best, not just for ones own group, but for society as a whole, is an alien concept to many.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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They should be labeled as a terrorist organization or organized crime organization. The government should investigate them and they should be monitored by the police. When they break the law, hit them hard with a strong prosecutor. Any groups that promote violence should be.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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I agree. What is it about extreme Democrats and their organizations like the KKK of many years ago and Antifa today that they have to go around in packs like animals harming others they don't agree with. I don't get it.
You guys accuse the Democrats of being pro KKK and pro Black Lives Matter,

LOL, what a joke
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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To my knowledge, antifa doesn't promote violence, but they match it. They meet noise with noise, demonstrations with demonstrations, and if violence breaks out, with violence.
Right.

Masked antifa swarm at Berkeley rally

Your adoration is precious.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Fighting fascism and white supremacy is self defense...
Here is the illiberal justification for initiation of violence.

Fighting fascism. Such heroics. Every word you type seems to be in bad faith.

Were it not for an estimated $600K in security and police spending (including 500 armed and armored police officers, multiple helicopters, and concrete barricades), Thursday night would likely have seen that initiation of violence.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I agree. What is it about extreme Democrats and their organizations like the KKK of many years ago and Antifa today that they have to go around in packs like animals harming others they don't agree with. I don't get it.
The old pacifists are long gone. Non-violence only encouraged groups like the KKK to greater violence against the non-violent protestors in earlier times, and it culminated in several deaths.

The antifa aren't going to let it go like that again. Hitting a bully back works better than taking the punch and hoping another won't follow.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:52 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Right.

Masked antifa swarm at Berkeley rally

Your adoration is precious.
There was also the time they attacked people at the Milo speech at Berkeley. Those weren't even protesters they were attacking. They were just people who were going to hear a speech on campus.

They like planning their attacks at Berkeley because they know that they have a sympathetic law enforcement agency there.
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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BLM/Antifa = TRUE FACISTS
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Here is the illiberal justification for inititation of violence.

Fighting fascism. Such heroics. Every word you type seems to be in bad faith.

Were it not for an estimated $600K in security and police spending (including 500 armed and armored police officers, multiple helicopters, and concrete barricades), Thursday night would have seen that initiation of violence.
I misstated.
Standing up to Fascism and White Supremacy is self defense. Violence is only acceptable for self defense.
I do not promote violence for violence's sake.
Make of it what you will.
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