Enough with the stupid "war is fought for your freedom to do.."

[jeffdoorgunner]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

You’re not a Marine Colonel, and you’re not Jack Nicholson.

I don’t need you on any wall, nor does anyone else. Again, we are detaining people without trial, and you seem to be claiming that we don’t.

Address that instead of posting lame Hollywood tropes about walls.

Address what? No I am not a Marine colonel. No I am not Jack Nicholson.
POW's are almost always "detained" without trial..............

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by ahzzie

Word of advice: try not to use logic and facts when dealing with conservatives. They don't like it. They get confused and angry.

Like how 4 Americans died in Benghazi because democratic leadership thought it would be a good idea to nation build by running guns to 1 side. The other side found out and retaliated. Or was it because muslims are crazy and rioted over a video? Yes lets listen to the progressives who constantly lie to cover up for their failed policies.

Word of advice. Become informed or you'll continue to look silly.

[Jabronie]

Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry

Like how 4 Americans died in Benghazi because democratic leadership thought it would be a good idea to nation build by running guns to 1 side. The other side found out and retaliated. Or was it because muslims are crazy and rioted over a video? Yes lets listen to the progressives who constantly lie to cover up for their failed policies.

Word of advice. Become informed or you'll continue to look silly.

Or that it was reported that security was not everything it was supposed to be and republicans voted against bolstering?


"GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security"

/SNIP
" House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected."
/SNIP

It almost parrellels what they are attempting to do with ACA, under fund, hamstring it's ability to function, then point fingers at how it's not working and blame the other side.

Gasslight Obstuct Project in action again, it's becoming tiresome.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by Jabronie

Or that it was reported that security was not everything it was supposed to be and republicans voted against bolstering?


"GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security"

/SNIP
" House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected."
/SNIP

It almost parrellels what they are attempting to do with ACA, under fund, hamstring it's ability to function, then point fingers at how it's not working and blame the other side.

Gasslight Obstuct Project in action again, it's becoming tiresome.

uhm...the security for embassies comes from the state dept budget...which increased every year prior to bengazi in2012..the only decrease (at the request of Hillary was 2013

state dept budget 2009 14.5 billion
state dept budget 2010 17 billion
state dept budget 2011.....50 billion............hmm state dept budget nearly triples in fy11....bet the weapons running of Hillary through Benghazi was part of that....follow the money
state dept budget 2012 ....52.1 billion
state dept budget 2013.... 51 billion

hillary was the sec of state..SHE DIRECTLY was responsible for all actions and policies within our embassies

was she or was she not the sec of state??? YES she was
does all policy, security, troop movement, etc for the embassies come through her office?? YES it does
did she use a non-secure email for her duties as SoS?? YES she did
did she violate G6, cyber security protocol??? YES she did
did she hide the truth??? YES she did
did an ambassador get killed, because of her offices incompetence??? YES
did she lie, and say security for the ambassador was not her call??? YES
did she lie, and say nothing secret or confidential went through her email??? YES

was it asked of her office to increase the security for that embassy.....YES....did her office honor that request.....NO

that is why the bullseye was on her...it was her RESPONSIBILITY to do her job PROPERLY

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

uhm...the security for embassies comes from the state dept budget...which increased every year prior to bengazi in2012..the only decrease (at the request of Hillary was 2013

state dept budget 2009 14.5 billion
state dept budget 2010 17 billion
state dept budget 2011.....50 billion............hmm state dept budget nearly triples in fy11....bet the weapons running of Hillary through Benghazi was part of that....follow the money
state dept budget 2012 ....52.1 billion
state dept budget 2013.... 51 billion

Source?

hillary was the sec of state..SHE DIRECTLY was responsible for all actions and policies within our embassies

was she or was she not the sec of state??? YES she was
does all policy, security, troop movement, etc for the embassies come through her office?? YES it does
did she use a non-secure email for her duties as SoS?? YES she did
did she violate G6, cyber security protocol??? YES she did
did she hide the truth??? YES she did
did an ambassador get killed, because of her offices incompetence??? YES
did she lie, and say security for the ambassador was not her call??? YES
did she lie, and say nothing secret or confidential went through her email??? YES

was it asked of her office to increase the security for that embassy.....YES....did her office honor that request.....NO

that is why the bullseye was on her...it was her RESPONSIBILITY to do her job PROPERLY

So why won't tRump lock her up?

He promised to repeatedly.

What's he afraid of?

[lilyflower3191981]

The bottom line for me is that I am just flat-out not interested in spending any more money or lives to help out anymore.

We get blamed for every one of the Middle East’s problems, including those it inflicts on itself. How gratifying it would be just to walk away, dust off our hands, and say you’re on your own.

Trump said, we cannot fight two wars at the same time. He also said, "Iraq war is a big fat mistake." Well, I expect to see some result. No more useless wars.