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You're right. The NRA can't afford to pick up people and actually take them to rallies and voting boxes but Hollywood and Socialist billionares can.
If you win, it won't be because your cause was just. It will be because someone greased the skids.
Guess Billionaire and largest contributor to Trump’s campaign and owner of Cambridge Analytica, Robert Mercer, doesn’t grease any palms?? Yes, he and his daughter Rebekah, another billionaire, can and do.
And the NRA surely can afford to pay off millions of $$’s to President Trump’s election campaign—$21 Million in 2016, and many more millions of $$’s to campaigns of members of the Senate and House. They are very able to hire some buses to take folks to the polls. Hollywood can’t compare.
How many "clueless kids" own large stakes and have decision making power in multibillion dollar companies? How many of those kids would have a spotlight if the spotlight wasn't set up FOR them in the first place?
So you think the day of the shooting, February 14, hollywood elitists and other high power liberals started contacting these kids, telling them to write their stories on social media, post the texts they sent their parents?
Or maybe, these students were sick and tired of the right's "now is the time for prayers, not action" and called them out on it. Others then got behind their message, because, yes, NOW is the time for action. Thoughts and prayers are not going to do anything to stop the violence in our country, so lets try something different.
Thoughts and prayers are not going to do anything to stop the violence in our country, so lets try something different.
Supporting politicians and the military is not going to do anything to stop the violence in all the countries we invade overseas, so lets try something different.
I was talking about the assumption that something must be wrong when a person buys a case of ammo.
In the heyday of the ammo surplus, that meant for WW III, I was shooting 1000/pistol and 400/rifle a month.
At my level (as with anyone's level as it might be), missing is unacceptable. One time when I had a near miss, my CHL instructor came up to me and said, "WHAT'S THAT? YOU JUST CAUSED AN INCIDENT!".
Practice, practice, practice. I am not back up to that amount and with the cost of ammo these days, I may never again be. I am at the range each week, though.
Last week, I shot around 100 rounds pistol with only, say, 5 misses. That is unacceptable and I must practice more.
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As you well know, the Swiss are armed - but don't have the ammo at home. I see no problem with a certified gun range having thousands of rounds of ammo which are accounted for.
If I am not wrong, even the military accounts for each bullet (or close). When you let an 18 YO buy thousands of rounds, I doubt we can all feel as safe as is some basic rules are followed.
I learned shooting at 7 yo (was lucky that my camp was rustic)...and went to military school where I earned marksman badges and would have been an officer if I made the choice (on graduation). It wasn't in my nature to control people (I even hated being a boss) and, luckily, I have never felt the need and it has never been there. I am very good at math and stats and where I raised my kids there was one murder - an inside job - in 26 years in a town of 25K. Those are good odds for me.....ZERO deaths of innocents by guns. In fact, I think ZERO woundings.
Then again, I have friends who are pharmacists in Philly - they wear a sidearm. I understand that fully. I don't live in a bubble. But most of us - if we have the ability and means - would move if we lived in an area that required us to decide whether or not to shoot other human beings.
As I write that I shudder thinking that some people assume that is part of life in America. We each, in a sense, create our own realities. Live by the sword and sometimes die by it.
A gun proponent should use the Golden Rule. Would they feel the same about the issue if one of their precious children were gunned down in school and you had to claim the pieces. Humans were given the ability to use logic and reason to compromise and put themselves into the shoes of others.
I can promise you that - even if I loved guns and owned a dozen - I wouldn't mind serious background checks, interviews, smaller magazines and bullet type limitations, etc.
Why should I? They just don't raise to the level of importance as thousands of dead people. I'd still have what I NEEDED (I'm not a baby, so its not about what I want, but what I really need) and less people would be grieving over their loved ones. Less vets and others would be committing suicide. Less domestic violence would end in a dead family. Etc.
Two things.
First of all, ammo is an item that varies immensely in price and in supply. It is not always there.
Secondly, if it were limited to certified ranges (certified? like available abortion clinics in Texas?), who gets to say that I should train to the level that I do?
I have a book beside me here at the computer, "Sex-Related Homicide Death Investigation: Practical and Clinical Perspectives" by Vernon Geberth. It's a CRC publication, so it is quite professional, quite detailed, quite graphic with its crime scene pictures, .... and quite expensive. I am quite sure, with its various crime scene pictures, that there are those who think such books should only be in the hands of police agencies, that if you are not in one, that you need to go to an agency and asked.
In any bureaucratic society, when one has to ask permission for something, it is far more likely that they will be told "NO" because people in charge tend to err on the side of caution.
The unfortunate thing is about that, such as in the need to practice marksmanship, if I miss and am taken to jail, will those people who said "NO" to my need to practice be there to share the blame?
I think not and I do not like others deciding what my risk will be when they are not there, either actual or after, to stand with me.
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I saw the part where the weird girl (my wife said she was a lesbo) stood silent, feigning emotion. My daughter pointed out that none of them ...none of them, mentioned the kids that were killed, and in fact they probably didn't even know them. It was all about them! Their moment of fame. Just like that numskull Hogg.
wrong..she named each student who was killed. She spoke for almost two minutes, then was silent After 4 minutes and 25 seconds, a timer went off. At which time she said "Since the time that I came out here," she said, "it has been 6 minutes and 20 seconds. The shooter has ceased shooting and will soon abandon his rifle, blend in with the students as they escape and walk free for an hour before arrest." "Fight for your lives before it's someone else's job," she said, and left the stage.
As far as your wife saying she was a "lesbo" I'm not quite sure why that matters or what it has to do with this discussion. Honestly it just sounds like a cheap shot
Go Kids, Go! You're standing up for and accomplishing things we adults from previous generations were unable to accomplish. Go vote your conscience! And vote out of office those who were not able to enact laws to protect you and society. You have the full support of those who stand behind you and who will someday VOTE FOR YOU!
then why don't we address the real problem....mental health
10000 minors die each year from texting...I don't see the kids protesting cellphones
I'm not sure what mental health has to do with texting, but most states have laws against texting and driving.
But no, 10,000 minors do not die each year from texting. 3,447 people (not just teens) died from all types of distracted driving in 2015. I doubt that number has drastically jumped that much in just 2 years.
Why does your property triumph over a child's right to live?
It doesn't... and hardly a gun owner would choose his gun over a child's life if by some magical and impossible scenario he/she could trade a hunk of metal, wood and plastic for an actual life.
But that's a fairy tale and we're not that goddamn stupid to believe it could happen!
Biologically modern humans have been walking this planet for as long as 400,000 years. In the archaeological records and historical archives of the planet from then to now there are libraries of evidence of man's inhumanity towards man. It is a behavioral norm for our species that a certain percentage of humans will have no qualms over killing others for selfish reasons... or no reason at all.
It was true long before guns were invented and would still be true if every last gun was magically tuned to dust.
When you willingly surrender your legal right to own a weapon, you are literally just hoping that millions of years of human evolutionary pressures and behavioral psychology are going to magically reverse and that nobody will ever take advantage of your weakness.
Good luck with that.
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