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Can you imagine being able to purchase an insurance policy on your home after it has burned down, or a car after its been stolen? Forcing folks with pre-existing conditions onto insurers and their healthy insured isnt the solution, a free market that lowers pricing along with private charity are the answers. Trump is wrong here until he recognizes such. The best way to lower costs and contain pricing is for patients to be their own advocate and you cant have it while the system is so rigged from laws and mandates (i.e. govt meddling and cronyism). Until then, enjoy the substandard overpriced care and as always hope you dont get sick.
Yep. But they won't be able to buy it at any price after Jan 2019. They will still be sick and they will still go to the ER. The burden though will be shifted from them and insurers to the remaining insured and the providers meaning rates and fees will be going up, up and up some more in a badly broken system. The GOP is setting the table for an unstoppable outcry for national health insurance. Keep in mind that Obamacare was the conservative and insurer designed alternative to that. The GOP sabotaged its own alternative to get at Obama and sooner or later they are going to get some version of a heavy government plan.
Republicans are hoping they can destroy the system now and leave it to the Democrats to fix later.
Dude, that's what insurance is all about - contributing to a pool.
I'm not sure how or why you think risk factors don't change the required contributions (premiums). Ever have to insure an 18 year old male driver? Ever have to insure a home in a low crime rate area vs. a home in a high crime rate area? BIG differences in insurance premiums. It's math. Just math. Actuarially analyzed risk.
-- It's an expansion of an existing program. No new bureaucracy needs to be created.
-- Private insurance is not put out of business. They can sell "Medigap" insurance.
-- Gov't subsidies can be provided to the poor for Medigap coverage, similar to the subsidies for Obamacare now.
-- Medicare has the lowest overhead of any health benefit system. HMO's and PPO's charge more because they want to make a profit.
-- For most people the extra Medicare payroll tax will be less than their private premiums now
-- MFA doesn't have to be implemented all at once. It can be done incrementally to avoid disruption, i.e., start by lowering the Medicare age from 65 to 55. Several years later drop it again to 45, etc.
Can you imagine being able to purchase an insurance policy on your home after it has burned down, or a car after its been stolen? Forcing folks with pre-existing conditions onto insurers and their healthy insured isnt the solution, a free market that lowers pricing along with private charity are the answers. Trump is wrong here until he recognizes such. The best way to lower costs and contain pricing is for patients to be their own advocate and you cant have it while the system is so rigged from laws and mandates (i.e. govt meddling and cronyism). Until then, enjoy the substandard overpriced care and as always hope you dont get sick.
You are posting BS.
There is no way that each individual patient can successfully advocate for themselves.
It's the same stupid argument made for union busting -- that each individual worker can bargain for themselves against corporations.
When we organize and bargain together we can oppose corporations. But not as individuals.
Imagine a person with cancer telling the cancer treatment center that they will not pay $10,000 - $30,000 per month for cancer treatment, that they will only pay $3,000 per month, and that's their final offer.
I cannot believe anyone actually supports preventing their fellow citizens from having access to affordable healthcare.
And people wonder why the term "deplorable" got tossed out there in the first place.
Look no further.
The real kicker is that many of those Trump supporters who cheer everything he does no matter what it might be are direct beneficiaries of the ACA, either through the ability of the uninsured to purchase insurance, the ability to have insurance even though they have preexisting conditions, or through Medicaid expansion.
They are essentially cheering their own demise, but they're too stupid to realize it. Deplorably stupid is a better description of them.
What's stupid about Medicare is that it doesn't cover hearing aids, glasses or dental work. If you're going to cover healthcare needs for actual people, cover all of the common problems that real human beings have.
It's silly and ridiculous that all healthcare insurance traditionally excludes dental work. Last time I checked my teeth and gums are a part of my body.
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