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Old 06-08-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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For one thing, it's way easier to provide medical coverage in dense urban areas than in East Buttfark, pop 257. For another, people in urban areas tend to have the common sense to not vote against their own interests when it comes to healthcare funding.

I agree. Not much need for a hospital in buttfark, pop. 257 when there is a hospital in bigtown, pop. 50,000 20 minutes away. This in no way is a result of not expanding Medicaid. It has always been such. Some of the old, small and outdated hospitals that did exist in buttfark, pop 257 have indeed closed or merged with better facilities with neighboring hospitals in arsecrak, pop. 2500 and bucksnort, pop. 30K.


But, if it makes you feel better about yourself to think someone who voted for President Trump is going without medical attention, feel free to do so.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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That'll do wonders for the infant mortality rate. Which isn't anything to brag about as it is...

America
So sad that so many babies die and are malnourished. Wonder why the anti-abortion group doesn't take up that cause. They could actually make a difference here with actual babies.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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Trump Wants to Remove Pre-Existing Conditions Coverage

Typical anti-consumer Trumpist position. Just another one of many ways the Trump administration is hurting the people of the United States. They have to get their licks in for this short window of time while they control everything and we the people are helpless to stop them.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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And when treatment is completely unaffordable, go die? That's the Republican's plan? Please go die?
We are presently hearing about unaffordable premium rates, unaffordable deductibles and higher co-pays. Stuff that the ACA was supposed to prevent.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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That is a disingenuous answer. If you are middle class and pay your bills, I would rather pay $400 than $100,000. Did you pay your $800?
Yep. There is nothing disengenuous about my answer. It's why medical bills is the number reason for bankruptcy. If you are poor, you have no other option.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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Would you also put your wife or child on the morphine train?
How much you want to bet he wouldn't? Then again you never can tell about someone with such a reckless disregard for their own life. Maybe his wife and kids are as meaningless to him as his own life. Maybe he thinks of them more like associates rather than loved ones, who knows. I just wonder if people like Volo automatically assume everyone else feels the same way he does so it MUST be the defacto way of thinking.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Urban areas tend to have more people with company-paid health insurance.

Urban areas tend to have more people who can afford individual insurance.


Ask that in the urban area with the highest homeless rate and that hands out poop maps....
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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Would you also put your wife or child on the morphine train?
Don't have any children, and my wife thinks exactly like I do. She was a hospice nurse for 6 years, so she isn't about wrecking an entire lifetime worth of financial success in order to prolong suffering. She may be more hardcore about it than I am, matter of fact.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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This is going to backfire on Trump--and on the GOP unless they stand up against this. Removing the preexisting conditions was the one part of the ACA that everybody, on both sides, liked and agreed with.

I'll be interested in seeing if any Republicans are stupid enough to back this. But then, they've surprised me with their stupidity before.
They are trying to get the courts to do it, which isn't going to happen.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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We are presently hearing about unaffordable premium rates, unaffordable deductibles and higher co-pays. Stuff that the ACA was supposed to prevent.
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Yep, my deductible is $4,000 and my out of pocket is another $4,000. But I now have insurance to pay the rest of my bill, which I absolutely didn't have before the ACA.

I can absolutely pay down that $8,000 over time. What I can't pay down is a bill in the six figures to millions or more, which one major illness or injury could easily run into.

Do I wish the deductibles and out of pocket were lower? Sure, who doesn't? But do I wish to return to the days when I was unable to purchase health insurance at all? No one who lived without it will say yes to that.

Why is this so difficult for so many to understand?
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