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Old 07-20-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Ronnie did not push the liberal freetrade (started by Carter and his puppeteer Brzezinski ) , but his neo-con VP bush1 certainly did
I'm afraid you are extremely wrong. I mean, laughably wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzoP0u7bpKY

Here he is advocating NAFTA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBhP-nj920s
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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the recessions (which may happen during a republican term) come from liberal policies
That may be what Limbaugh repeats ad nauseam but Trump will own the next recession, just like 2008 was primarily on Bush.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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socialism(leftist aka liberalism) demands globalism
Like North Korea? Cuba? Quite the opposite.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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You realize GDP growth last quarter was only like 2% don't you?

All of the numbers that you cite as good right now, Trump and the right called fake under Obama. The truth is, we were headed in this direction, the tax cuts juiced the market and some investment, but it also set us on a path to trillion dollar deficits next year. He traded short term gains for long term losses. Juicing the economy also resulted in increased interest rates which just compounds our debt problem.

When the economy is healthy, the prudent thing to do is pay down debts and restructure them, not add to them. It is not politically sexy, but it is the prudent and fiscally conservative thing to do

What was the policy that Obama implemented to save us?
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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Like North Korea? Cuba? Quite the opposite.
When globalist talk about helping the poor, they are not referring to America's poor. If you used your head you could see that.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That may be what Limbaugh repeats ad nauseam but Trump will own the next recession, just like 2008 was primarily on Bush.
the 08 recession was due to liberal housing giveaways (Clinton), and all the outsourcing (loss of jobs) due to Clintons freetrades agreements (19 of them)
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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the 08 recession was due to liberal housing giveaways (Clinton), and all the outsourcing (loss of jobs) due to Clintons freetrades agreements (19 of them)
Wrong. Maybe in Fox News land that was the cause but in reality, Clinton left this country with one of the best economies in its history and a surplus. Bush squandered that with tax cuts for the wealthy. The only thing that kept the economy humming through most of Bush's Presidency was the real estate boom.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:01 PM
 
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Ronnie did not push the liberal freetrade (started by Carter and his puppeteer Brzezinski ) , but his neo-con VP bush1 certainly did

Come on man....Reagan was for free trade, just like I am. However it needs to be competitive trade, not the country whose greatest innovation is windowless sweat shops that hide child labor the best.

Its good to know classical economics but one must understand game theory as well. Race to the bottom can occur in comparative advantage trade relationships.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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Well, how come it took Obama more than 8 years to be successful? Slowest recovery ever.

You don't suppose it might have had something to do with so many regulation being lifted by Trump?

What specific regulation was responsible for Trump having the same job numbers that Obama had for the 75 months prior to Trump took office>
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Like North Korea? Cuba? Quite the opposite.
for decades the American liberals idolized the soviets and the leftist communism... Saul alinsky even called communism the political paradise


"A socialist/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky




the American liberals continue to push globalism/socialism hoping for no borders and the endgame of socialism/communism


"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind , not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them." Lenin




socialism is globalist...socialism wants NO BORDERS, one world dictatorship


In order to bring about a North American Union (NAU), the public first has to be conditioned to think of themselves as North Americans. ... "Zbigniew Brzezinski (mentor to Carter, Bush1, clinto, cheney, and Obama)has been a CSIS counselor, and at Mikhail Gorbachev's first State of the World Forum in 1995, Brzezinski revealed:



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"We cannot leap into the one world government through one quick step.... The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units."

Liberals wanting a North American Union...like the European Union

"...in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty."

"This is a form of Socialism known as fascism, and it will be the type of world government the power elite plans ultimately to bring about and control. In this government, the power elite will control politicians who will become government leaders who will promulgate laws, rules and regulations favorable to certain transnational corporations/governments" ZB




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"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis...and the nations will accept the New World Order.." David Rockefeller


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“A world society cannot be haphazard. Since there are no precedents, it cannot be traditional at this stage in its development. It can only be deliberative and experimental, planned and built up with particular objectives......socialist Scott Nearing


Richard N. Haass:



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"In the 21st century, the principle aim of American foreign policy is to integrate other countries and organizations into arrangements that will sustain a world consistent with U.S. interests and values.

"…Integration is about bringing nations together and then building frameworks of cooperation and, where feasible, institutions that reinforce and sustain them even more
Haass should know. Not only is he a member of the Trilateral Commission, he’s the President of the Council on Foreign Relations. In fact, Haass wrote the forward to the CFR report, Building a North American Community.




In December, 1994, at a meeting in Miami, Florida, the Clinton administration launched a program of continental “economic integration,” which was put in motion after “the leaders of 34 countries in the Western Hemisphere pledged…to form a Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA).”



Zbigniew Brzezinski described in his policy handbook, The Grand Chessboard –
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the United States will need a hemispherical approach in order to help ensure its “primacy” on the world stage, specifically as economic competition increases from integrated trading blocks around the world
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