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Patients who were scheduled for surgery have to find a new doctor and start the process all over. Patients who were admitted, have to be transferred to other hospitals.
These two hospitals are big hospitals and not some small medical center.
Socialist health care is failing badly.
The choice of a primary doctor has to be in a certain zip code. Good luck to people who don’t live in the best areas. You will be stuck with the government telling you who your doctor will be!
Open your eyes as socialist don’t care about you. They care about other people’s money and run it down the drain. The socialist leaders will make sure they don’t battle same plan as you or they make sure thylive in the best areas.
Amsterdam was always part of Western, good society and is now becoming a healthcare poverty society as the system is completely broke.
Long wait time for treatments and for even seeing a doctor!
Careful what you wish for. Obama praises the Dutch and German system!
Obama praises a broken system and wished that on you!
I remember reading that hospitals were formed because a religious community would gather and have fund raisers so they can raise the money to send their brightest and best people of the communities to college to become doctors and study medicine, then they would come back to the communities and build hospitals so the sick can go there and heal. It's why so many hospitals today are named after some religious saint, and will have the Jesus Christ cross as the official emblem of healing centers.
Back then, doctors became doctors because they wanted to heal people, and hospitals were raised to help communities in their most desperate need. When did our medical industry go from wanting to heal to wanting to bankrupt the world with outrageous costs of medical care?
Everything that our social governments now are proclaiming to raise high taxes to care for the poor and sick, used to be taken care of by the churches by voluntary donations. I can't speak for every community, but here in my community, there seems to be a war of the government on religious institutes that try to help people in need by offering soup kitchens, shelter and even safehouses for battered women. I won't lie, the mega churches are definitely not doing God's work, and are nothing more than posers, but the smaller churches that are run by true religious believers are the biggest backbone in keeping the moral and integrity alive in a community.
It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system. And has given me and relatives world class service and treatments!
I have NO fear of getting sick or anybody else I know, because I know our Socialized healthcare will help them, no matter what costs or treatments.
Right now a elderly relative is using pills that costs $800 each day, to fight his cancer. As are hundreds of others.. And medications here are FAR FAR cheaper then the US, because we have collective bargaining power!
So for people that can't afford healthcare, screw em, right?
That's how you feel.
You might as well just say it.
Show who you really are.
Is this that "secular humanism" that those people were talkin about?
No, maybe it's time for the government to stop robbing from Peter to pay for Paul's expensive life saving surgery that in the end just makes Paul's doctor much more wealthier, and instead, maybe it's time for the government to start looking into regulating the costs of medical care to begin with. Maybe start with the colleges that ask for way too much money to become a doctor, so that only the rich can afford it, or those who are on student loans, have to charge their patients double to pay back the loans. What about the cost of medicine? Most medical miracles are a combination of government grants and voluntary donations for research. You ever hear about these fund raisers that the rich go to, to donate a large sum of money so they can write it off on their taxes, these are the kinds of fund raisers that fund the medical research institutes, so basically there is no reason why all of these medicines have to cost as much as they do.
Just saying, look all around you. The more control you give the government over what you are allowed to spend your money on, the worse things get. Especially the United States government, which is full of corruption.
You and I pay high taxes for education, but yet, where is it going? We are one of the worst educated countries in the world. You can throw all of the money you want towards education, but if our government is taking the money and using it to fatten the pockets of contractors with no bid contracts to build more schools, no bid contracts on who gets to write and publish the books, which companies get to sell their desks, lockers, security systems, uniforms, pencils, pens, notebooks, etc, you get the picture, and then finally using what is left to pay teachers that may not be the absolute best teachers we can find for the job, it just seems to me that the education system is just another Ponzi scheme to steal from the poor to pay for the rich and well connected.
You and I also pay high taxes for our defense, and isn't it amazing, ever since the government started to enforce the confiscation of gold from the public, the US has been in some kind of war. The poor keep getting killed in these wars while the elite get richer with every private defense contract that is drawn up. And the world is definitely not any safer.
Heck, our taxes are even supposed to go to roads and infrastructure, but why is it again, the money goes to no bid contractors, and the roads always need to be worked on? To me, forcing the people to pay taxes to a corrupt government that will use the tax money to fatten their wallets and make sure their family and friend's companies are benefiting the most from the taxes is just a failure all around. You don't see the correlation with the constant mergers and monopolies of major corporations are rising with the increase of taxes, regulations and fees????? Are you not seeing that these policies are benefiting the extremely wealthy and well connected mega corporations while the small businesses are crumbling under all of the weight of bureaucracy?
It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system. And has given me and relatives world class service and treatments!
I have NO fear of getting sick or anybody else I know, because I know our Socialized healthcare will help them, no matter what costs or treatments.
Right now a elderly relative is using pills that costs $800 each day, to fight his cancer. As are hundreds of others.. And medications here are FAR FAR cheaper then the US, because we have collective bargaining power!
Socialized healthcare is GREAT!!
My Danish aunt was diagnosed with gall stones. She died in agony of liver cancer. Yay socialized medicine.
It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system. And has given me and relatives world class service and treatments!
I have NO fear of getting sick or anybody else I know, because I know our Socialized healthcare will help them, no matter what costs or treatments.
Right now a elderly relative is using pills that costs $800 each day, to fight his cancer. As are hundreds of others.. And medications here are FAR FAR cheaper then the US, because we have collective bargaining power!
Socialized healthcare is GREAT!!
How many weeks does it take to see a medical professional in the Emergency Room?
"Arrangements have been made to transfer the 150 patients staying at the Slotervaart hospital to other locations in Amsterdam in the next few days. Insurers have guaranteed that beds will stay open for the 200 patients in the IJsselmeer hospitals until alternatives have been found.".
There is no indication that these were large facilities. The picture on the article Show a 700+ bed hospital. But the transfer numbers are equivalent to a small community hospital or a nursing home. I'm not sure if your aware but we have annual closures of facilities this size in America all the time. We have had national chains of hospitals go bankrupt in in America (Colombia hospitals, now HCA).
This forum is a dumpster fire full of easy to disprove bull, no wonder so many moved to other sites.
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