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Old 10-26-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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After all NO hospital goes bankrupt in the US. Ever.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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My Danish aunt was diagnosed with gall stones. She died in agony of liver cancer. Yay socialized medicine.
All people die.

Some of them die of liver Cancer.

Agony is a relative experience.

Multiple organ failure is a common process associated with death, especially from Cancer. It is rarely a peaceful process, regardless of how medicated the patient is.

Sorry about your Aunt. Blaming her death on socialized medicine is a tad goofy.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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"Arrangements have been made to transfer the 150 patients staying at the Slotervaart hospital to other locations in Amsterdam in the next few days. Insurers have guaranteed that beds will stay open for the 200 patients in the IJsselmeer hospitals until alternatives have been found.".

There is no indication that these were large facilities. The picture on the article Show a 700+ bed hospital. But the transfer numbers are equivalent to a small community hospital or a nursing home. I'm not sure if your aware but we have annual closures of facilities this size in America all the time. We have had national chains of hospitals go bankrupt in in America (Colombia hospitals, now HCA).

U.S. Hospitals Shut at 30-a-Year Pace, With No End in Sight
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-analysts-say

This forum is a dumpster fire full of easy to disprove bull, no wonder so many moved to other sites.
Per the link, hospitals are increasingly being challenged by the number of out patient surgeries and offsite imaging. Rural communities with dealing populations are especially at risk because their populations are not adequate to sustain a hospital.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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The hospital wrote off you relatives bill and boosted the charges on everyone else that can pay.

Kinda why people complaining about paying for other people aren't grasping the fact that we already are.

I have had pretty good insurance for over 25 years via work and I've pretty much come around to supporting single payer.

So your company currently carries the burden of your health care cost ? Many companies across the nation do, and then there are many individuals like my wife and I that pay into the system to cover those that either can't afford it or choose not to. So, if single payer is ever rolled out, the first thing that happens is corporations stop paying into it, they don't have to now. My wife and I stop paying our premiums as do many others since we don't have to anymore. And everyone gets a tax hike to paying the system. Do you really think there well be enough revenue to cover it ? Not to mention, the government managing it ? I also can see it now, states with higher populations of people in the workforce will be complaining about covering states with low populations with high unemployment.


I like the sound of "free" healthcare in theory... but I really don't think it could be sustainable in the long run.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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Smile State-by-state breakdown of 80 rural hospital closures

Socialist healthcare system is broke!

As if ...

More deception from the right wing.

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Old 10-26-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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Many hospitals have problem making ends meet. Many have been bought out and merged w/ others. Medicare reimbursement issues, along w/ other issues make it hard for them to make profit or keep their head up above water. Years back this was never an issue. Think of hospitals you knew in the 70's, 80's and so forth. All of their names have changed due to mergers or buy outs.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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My Danish aunt was diagnosed with gall stones. She died in agony of liver cancer. Yay socialized medicine.
Something similar happened to my mother. She was misdiagnosed here in Illinois, and checked herself into the hospital anyway. Within weeks she was dead of liver cancer. It was horrible.

Should I say "Yay profiteering medicine." ?? No, because that mistake has nothing to do with how the care is financed.

Don't make a cheap political point with the suffering of your unfortunate aunt. It is beneath you.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Socialist health care is failing badly.
Doesn't seem like it.

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Old 10-26-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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Something similar happened to my mother. She was misdiagnosed here in Illinois, and checked herself into the hospital anyway. Within weeks she was dead of liver cancer. It was horrible.

Should I say "Yay profiteering medicine." ?? No, because that mistake has nothing to do with how the care is financed.

Don't make a cheap political point with the suffering of your unfortunate aunt. It is beneath you.
Evidently it's not. One would expect it to be, but it's not.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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FYI - here in America there is an epidemic of hospitals and medical centers closing....


We don't have a fully socialized medical system.
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