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It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system. And has given me and relatives world class service and treatments!
I have NO fear of getting sick or anybody else I know, because I know our Socialized healthcare will help them, no matter what costs or treatments.
Right now a elderly relative is using pills that costs $800 each day, to fight his cancer. As are hundreds of others.. And medications here are FAR FAR cheaper then the US, because we have collective bargaining power!
Socialized healthcare is GREAT!!
"It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system."
Did you take into account the TAXES you paid to get the "free" care?
"It has saved me tens if not hundreds of thousands of $ compared to a US system."
Did you take into account the TAXES you paid to get the "free" care?
I doubt it.
It still costs less, even medicare in the US is charges less at hospitals than those whoi are insured. Those who don't have insurance or medicare being charged the most. Other countries pay far less for heathcare than the US.
In Social Democratic 1st world nations, somebody is paying the bills. The individual, corporations and VAT.
And they are "paying" half of what the US does, get better results, healthier citizens and NO medical bankruptcies.
In the US, tens of millions don´t have insurance, hundreds of thousands are filing for medical bankruptcy each year, and tens of thousands are dying each year because they dont have access to healthcare.
They are not paying half, have you actually looked at the corporate and individual tax rates for the Netherlands , for instance ?
Sales tax on a car would be 21%, it's 6% here in MI.
If this is truly the case then you're lower income and someone else has been paying more than their expected costs to cover for you.
Either that or you're not recognizing where you're being charged implicitly.
I'm not even against a single payer system in the US, but people need to be "eyes wide open" about how nothing is free.
Of course nothing is free. The difference is that one is paid mainly as a direct cost via employers and via deduction on your paycheck to a 3rd party for-profit corporation and the other is a deduction on your paycheck via taxes to a non-profit insurance company.
The people up in arms about this don't see that it's just changing out one for another, ideally removing the profit motive and increasing the user base size enough to enact economics of scale to drive down prices.
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Of course nothing is free. The difference is that one is paid mainly as a direct cost via employers and via deduction on your paycheck to a 3rd party for-profit corporation and the other is a deduction on your paycheck via taxes to a non-profit insurance company.
The people up in arms about this don't see that it's just chaining out one for another, ideally removing the profit motive and increasing the user base size enough to enact economics of scale to drive down prices.
Of course nothing is free. The difference is that one is paid mainly as a direct cost via employers and via deduction on your paycheck to a 3rd party for-profit corporation and the other is a deduction on your paycheck via taxes to a non-profit insurance company.
The people up in arms about this don't see that it's just changing out one for another, ideally removing the profit motive and increasing the user base size enough to enact economics of scale to drive down prices.
whats the motive to improve services if you remove the profit? Let us know when you forgo your own salary to help others out
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