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Old 10-31-2018, 09:26 AM
Status: "“If a thing loves, it is infinite.”" (set 2 days ago)
 
Location: Great Britain
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"Norway has the largest sovereign wealth fund in the world at over $1 Trillion, (the opposite of a budget deficit)"

Not exactly the opposite. The US could create funds through deficit spending, then buy the same Trillion dollar portfolio if we the people or our elected officials decided to save at the national level.
It has surplus based on it's oil fund taxes, rather than a deficit between the amount gathered in taxes and the amount soent by Government.

Norway had the largest gas and oil field in the North Sea, and used taxes and revenues from the nationalised oil companies.

Norway is not investing the money in to remewable energy as it looks to the end of oil and gas production.

Although Norway is not in a unique position in terms of renewables as lots of countries have the potential for solar, wind, wave and other renewable forms of energy, although it is now in a very good position regarding the sovereign wealth fund.

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Old 10-31-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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It has surplus based on it's oil fund taxes, rather than a deficit between the amount gathered in taxes and the amount soent by Government.

Norway had the largest gas and oil field in the North Sea, and used taxes and revenues from the nationalised oil companies.

Norway is not investing the money in to remewable energy as it looks to the end of oil and gas production.

Although Norway is not in a unique position in terms of renewables as lots of countries have the potential for solar, wind, wave and other renewable forms of energy, although it is now in a very good position regarding the sovereign wealth fund.
OK, better IMO.

The USA could certainly do the same or similar. But as the USD is so freely usable all over the world, it makes little sense to save in such a way. But maybe more sense than the federal gov't saving in USD's.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:03 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The state said screw em when they ran out of other people’s money. Pay for your own stuff. Be responsible for yourself.

When we start telling other countries that you may have a point, until then not so much.
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Old 10-31-2018, 07:56 PM
 
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I read horror stories about the NHS in the UK nearly every week. I watch old Britcoms from the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s and they ALWAYS made jokes back then about how horrible the NHS was. People would dream about having private insurance. My British friends can afford private insurance so have BUPA
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Old 11-01-2018, 04:51 AM
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I read horror stories about the NHS in the UK nearly every week. I watch old Britcoms from the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s and they ALWAYS made jokes back then about how horrible the NHS was. People would dream about having private insurance. My British friends can afford private insurance so have BUPA
The NHS is very popular in the UK and the British self deprecating sense of humour is famous.

The NHS a vast national organisation, with a lot of world class hospitals including major teaching hospitals and research hubs. Care is continually monitored and inspected by the Care Quality Commission (CQC) who can take measures if care is not deemed to be up to standard. You can broswe the insoection reports for your hospital on-line.

Find a hospital | Care Quality Commission

90% of people in the UK do not have private health insurance, and private hospitals are usually smaller hospitals with less emergency treatments and do not have the facilities available at the major teaching hospitals. It also should be known that many of the world famous hospitals in the UK actually take private patients from abroad, bringing in revenue for the NHS. Whilst the current Government has recetly announcec a £20 Billion increase in NHS Spending.

There are equally lots of horor stories about the US System and most people in the UK would not swap the NHS for the US system.

Recent NHS investments have included new state of the art regional cancer centre investment, the development of major trauma centres to compliment the Accient and Emergency system and many hospitals have heli-pads in orderthat the 40 UK Air Ambulances and Coastguard Helicopters can land safely.

The NHS: even more cherished than the monarchy and the army - New Statesman

NHS facts – NHS70

Our Research Centres | Cancer Research UK

Major Trauma Centres in England - NHS

There was also the recent announcemet of an extra £2 Billion for mental health services.

Hammond's £2bn Budget boost for mental health crisis services - ITV News

New NHS service to include mental health ambulances and a hotline for sufferers - City AM

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Old 11-01-2018, 06:47 AM
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A few of the famous NHS Hospitals and Trusts in England many of which are national and international centres of excellence.

Cambridge Biomedical Campus | Health Care, Science & Medicine

Cambridge Biomedical Campus | Cambridge University Hospitals

Royal National Orthopaedic Hospital | RNOH is the largest orthopaedic hospital in the UK

RJAH - The Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Trust

Royal National Hospital for Rheumatic Diseases - Welcome

National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery - UCLH

The Walton Centre

Royal National Throat, Nose and Ear Hospital - UCLH

Eastman Dental Hospital - UCLH

Royal National ENT and Eastman Dental Hospitals - a new clinical facility - UCLH

Moorfields Eye Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

Plans advance for new £250m London eye hospital | Construction Enquirer

Royal Brompton & Harefield NHS Foundation Trust

Our new hospital :: Royal Papworth Hospital

Welcome to the Institute - Institute of Transplantation

St Mark's Hospital, London - Specialist Bowel Hospital

Liver transplantation - King's College Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

The Royal Marsden NHS Foundation Trust

The London Cancer Hub: Home

London Cancer Hub - The Institute of Cancer Research, London

The Christie NHS Foundation Trust

The Clatterbridge Cancer Centre :: Home

Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children

Alder Hey Children's Hospital | Alder Hey in the Park

Birmingham Children's Hospital

Stoke Mandeville Hospital - Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust

LSHTM: The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine

Maudsley Hospital - South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust

About us - Oxford University Hospitals

Overview - The Royal London Hospital - NHS

Our history - Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust

St Bartholomew's Hospital - Barts Health NHS Trust

St Mary's Hospital - Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust

About us - UCLH

The Royal Free

List of burn centres in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

Francis Crick Institute


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Old 11-01-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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Socialism NEVER works. Sweden is going broke.........guess why...........
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Socialism NEVER works. Sweden is going broke.........guess why...........
Sweden is nowhere near going broke.
Nice try though.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:30 AM
 
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Socialism NEVER works. Sweden is going broke.........guess why...........

Sure it does, for those that don't.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I disagree that socialism doesn't work -right leaning politicians did a good job of getting that mantra to the masses here in the 80s, but time has shown that economic policy, is situation dependent.
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