Thousand Oaks: 'Multiple fatalities' at California bar shooting (patriots, company, important)
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I have no idea what that means, care to explain it?
I took it as, those seeking to do harm to another because they're physically bigger/stronger or armed wouldn't be so willing to F around and Find out who in society is armed. As their incentive to use violence/force amongst another for any reason would be revoked.
Kind of like how my 70 year old mother carries. She's 4'11 looks like mother goose lol. To a mugger or car jacker she's a prime target. Lives alone. Prime target for a home invader.
Or how my little sister carries. She's dainty. Prime target for a rapist.
Cowards that have to use force against another wouldn't be so quick to initiate force against another if another has the means of defense.
No point in expecting anything coherent from hyper macho gun fetishists.
Fetish? Why is everything a sexual impulse with you? What kind of issues are you trying to project onto others?
Translation. I can not rationalize why folks have an interest in a firearm so I'll try to make sense of it and tie it to a sexual impulse. Because that's what make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by dman72
Some people haven't progressed past 5th grade intellectually if they can't see the glaring stupidity in these scenarios.
No. We're just realistic in knowing true evil exists in society and acknowledge we are responsible for our own safety and well being. We're not naive to believe the world is all rainbows unicorns and puppy dogs.
That and when seconds matter help is minutes away no fault of their own. Nor do police have a duty to protect-Warren v D.C. ruling.
Fetish? Why is everything a sexual impulse with you? What kind of issues are you trying to project onto others?
Translation. I can not rationalize why folks have an interest in a firearm so I'll try to make sense of it and tie it to a sexual impulse. Because that's what make sense to me.
No. We're just realistic in knowing true evil exists in society and acknowledge we are responsible for our own safety and well being. We're not naive to believe the world is all rainbows unicorns and puppy dogs.
That and when seconds matter help is minutes away no fault of their own. Nor do police have a duty to protect-Warren v D.C. ruling.
An unhealthy obsession, fetish, call it whatever you want.
If you post gun nut talking points like the one highlighted more than a couple of times a week, that probably describes you.
True evil exists in society, and having a bunch of hyper macho types like some of the people I've exchanged with in this thread walking around armed will do nothing to change that. Instead, it will lead to more people getting hurt by said hyper macho fools.
I can easily rationalize how so many hyper macho types tie so much of their identities to their ability to own weapons, what I can't rationalize is why society continues to tolerate putting their fetishistic desires over the general well being of everyone else.
Fetish? Why is everything a sexual impulse with you? What kind of issues are you trying to project onto others?
A fetish does not always imply something sexual in nature. One definition of the word is:
an excessive and irrational devotion or commitment to a particular thing.
By the definition you clearly have an unhealthy hyper fetish for firearms. Maybe something you should spend some time reflecting upon.
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87
Translation. I can not rationalize why folks have an interest in a firearm so I'll try to make sense of it and tie it to a sexual impulse. Because that's what make sense to me.
With many of the firearm posters on these threads, their relationship with firearms goes way beyond casual interest. There are posters on here who have commented that they will be willing to kill anyone who attempts to "take" their guns and are willing to die for the guns if need be. Think about how insane and absurd that is. That you are willing to die in order to possess a rather mundane and inexpensive mechanical item. I know a few people who are car nuts. They live and breath cars. They wouldn't kill someone so that they can own a 1957 Thunderbird. To hold such an opinion would be considered insane.
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Originally Posted by NY_refugee87
No. We're just realistic in knowing true evil exists in society and acknowledge we are responsible for our own safety and well being. We're not naive to believe the world is all rainbows unicorns and puppy dogs.
What is ironic is that you and your fellow ilk are the true evil in society. Because we have so many people with your mentality we now live in a society soaked to the bone in guns. To such a point that any manic can readily acquire one. Legally even. When the inevitable happens (mass shootings, crime) you respond by doubling down on your position and bringing even more guns into our society and loosing the regulations even more. Which enables the inevitable to happen even more frequently then before. So in a sense you are a cog in the machine of death and you don't even realize it. Maybe you lack the mental fortitude to ever realize it.
I can easily rationalize how so many hyper macho types tie so much of their identities to their ability to own weapons, what I can't rationalize is why society continues to tolerate putting their fetishistic desires over the general well being of everyone else.
From my experiences a lot of the very zealous gun owners are not macho at all. They attempt to substitute a fundamental lack of masculinity by acquiring guns. As if that will compensate for their own perceived masculine shortcomings.
Being in San Jose, I know lots of guys in the MMA community, since there are some major MMA training facilities in the area. MMA guys are some of the most relaxed, laid-back and quietly confident people you will ever meet. They are sure footed in their perception of their own masculinity and thus find no desire to be aggressive, scared and paranoid. Its a sharp contrast to the gun community. So I don't think its a problem with masculinity with the gun community but a fundamental lack of it.
..........Being in San Jose, I know lots of guys in the MMA community, since there are some major MMA training facilities in the area. MMA guys are some of the most relaxed, laid-back and quietly confident people you will ever meet. They are sure footed in their perception of their own masculinity and thus find no desire to be aggressive, scared and paranoid. Its a sharp contrast to the gun community. So I don't think its a problem with masculinity with the gun community but a fundamental lack of it.
It's a boy thing?
Long ago, soon after I turned adult, I decided that I would teach a comrade that it was useless to fight with me. We both got busted for fighting but the charge was written in such a way that we could not protest it without saying too much about what had happened and possible incurring more of a penalty.
That was the start of being quiet about what I am. These days, it is that if I fight, I'm putting "you" in the hospital, ER or the morgue is a question for the Fates. I will fight so I can get out of there, I will fight completely, and it has to be deadly serious for me to fight. Absolute force of will where there is no doubt.
I do not fight for fun but fight only and if I have to. It gets into that thing of judged by 12 than carry by 6.
As far as anything else to above, well, that's the "full combat suite" where everything is dedicated to win be it offensive, defensive, support, detection, evasion, etc..
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What is ironic is that you and your fellow ilk are the true evil in society. Because we have so many people with your mentality we now live in a society soaked to the bone in guns. To such a point that any manic can readily acquire one. Legally even. When the inevitable happens (mass shootings, crime) you respond by doubling down on your position and bringing even more guns into our society and loosing the regulations even more. Which enables the inevitable to happen even more frequently then before. So in a sense you are a cog in the machine of death and you don't even realize it. Maybe you lack the mental fortitude to ever realize it.
I haven't killed anyone. Haven't fired a shot in anger at anyone. Do go on and explain how I am the true evil. Show your work.
There is no legitimate reason for civilians to own firearms designed for military purposes. There is no legitimate reason not to insist that all gun buyers pass a background check. There is no legitimate reason for putting the sporting interests of target shooters ahead of the right of the rest of us to not get shot.
There is no legitimate reason for civilians to own firearms designed for military purposes. There is no legitimate reason not to insist that all gun buyers pass a background check. There is no legitimate reason for putting the sporting interests of target shooters ahead of the right of the rest of us to not get shot.
The reason why we are allowed to own guns is not for "sporting interests". And clearly none of those tough gun laws work.
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