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Old 12-04-2018, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I can completely understand that. If someone isn't comfortable with a gun they shouldn't have to live with one.
I am uncomfortable with the presence of traitor liberal socialist I’m my nation. I would like them removed please.

Ridiculous that these snowflakes think their discomfort gives them the right to violate this woman’s rights. It also was very clear they hated her pro Trump politics and stereotyped her for being southern. If her name was on the lease and she did not violate the lease in some way she should sue the landlord for violating the contract. One thing Yankees understand is lawsuits.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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how do y'all feel about this ? i think gun owners are not a protected class so its the owners will to legally discriminate.

the roomates are obvious a-holes for rumaging thru her stuff while she was away.

this no different than my cousins who evicted a couple from his 3-family in somerville because they had a dog.



The roommates need to move out.
Forcing someone out, because of their god given right....
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:50 AM
 
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There is no God given right to leave loaded firearms lying around.

What a load of nonsense.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:31 AM
 
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So to sum up the story we know thus far, Leyla Pirnie moved in and started classes on Sept. 4th. Things start going downhill with her roommates.

While she is away on a trip, they go through her bedroom, and find loaded firearms that are not locked up or secured.

They tell her they don't feel safe with loaded guns lying about, demand she secures the guns, and she agrees to move out.

In October, she changes her mind and refuses to leave.

Roommates contact the landlord and ask for mediation. He writes that it would be best for her to move rather than the roommates moving and leaving her with the entire rent.

Leyla Pirnie arranges to legally secure the guns and calls local law enforcement. She schedules an appointment on Dec. 11 to get the permit she is required by law to have within 60 days, which by now has come and gone.

Whether she is a resident or a non-resident makes no difference, unless she is there for hunting season, at a gun collectors show, or at a shooting competition, everyone, resident or not, is required to have a permit within 60 days.

Gun websites encourage people to get going on this early on as it can take several weeks for the interview, background check, etc.

Whether she was allowed to open carry in Alabama with or without a permit makes no difference as Massachusetts does not honor permits from any other states.

Massachusetts law clearly states the guns are to be locked and secured. Makes no difference if she is a resident or a non-resident. There is no grace period.

So all the gaslighting comments about how Leyla Pirnie could be a non-resident, Massachusetts has to recognize her Alabama right to open carry, she has 60 days before she is required to make an application for a permit, ... are all lies, pulled out of thin air.

Leyla Pirnie explains that she takes up with men who abuse her and needs loaded firearms to protect herself.

Understandably, her roommates do not feel safe living with Leyla, her loaded firearms, or the possibility she may get into a gun fight in her bedroom to protect herself from an abusive boyfriend.

Leyla Pirnie is now making the rounds giving interviews on Fox, etc. about her privacy, and how she is being discriminated against for being a Trump supporter and an irresponsible gun owner.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:53 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Originally Posted by Delahanty View Post

So if DH and I decide to rent a room, we have to inform the prospective tenant of the fact that we own firearms.

1) I see.
2) lolol
Let's put it another way. Do you believe that people have the right to make informed decisions?

There is probably no legal obligation to disclose, but there is, IMO, an ethical one, so yes, I think you should. I also think someone who does not want guns in the home should inform a prospective tenant that they do not allow them on their property.

Please note that I am not fanatically either pro- or anti-gun. I am, however, a bit of a fanatic about honesty, particularly when it comes to sharing a home. Having roommates is complicated enough, even when all parties are clear about their expectations. There is no benefit to complicating it further by failing to put all the cards on the table from the start.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:05 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Same with firearms, with FAR fewer injuries and deaths. How many people has the MA college student injured or killed with her firearm(s)? None.

Relevant stat:

Americans own about 400 million firearms. There are 270 million registered vehicles in the US. There are about 100,000 firearm-related serious injuries/deaths each year, but there are 330,000 serious injuries/deaths each year solely attributable to texting while driving (NTSB). Vehicles are 2/3 the number of injurious/lethal devices as firearms, yet result in 3+ times the number of serious injuries/deaths. Surprisingly, no one is lobbying to heavily restrict or ban vehicles and/or cell phones and mobile devices, even though there is no Constitutional Right to either a vehicle or a cell phone or other mobile device.
When used as intended, your vehicle gets you to and from work or the grocery store.

When used as intended, guns injure/maim/kill.

The texting while driving issue is as far out there on a tangential trajectory as you can get. It has nothing to do with vehicle safety and everything to do with human idiocy.

We are very near the end of a bizarre and barbaric period in our history where it was considered normal, and even preferable in the most misguided minds, for anyone and everyone who so desires to be walking around with a deadly weapon on their person. And it has been the zealous advocacy of that "right" that has continually fueled the perceived need for, yep, anyone and everyone who so desires to be walking around with a deadly weapon on their person.

The 2nd amendment has outlived its sensibility by at least a hundred years.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:44 AM
 
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Ignorance is no excuse. There are mandatory minimum punishments that include jail time, and/or thousands in fines for their mental failures and lack of respect for state law.

" and lack of respect for state law", UNLESS that law is Unconstitutional!
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:54 AM
 
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I am uncomfortable with the presence of traitor liberal socialist I’m my nation. I would like them removed please.

Ridiculous that these snowflakes think their discomfort gives them the right to violate this woman’s rights. It also was very clear they hated her pro Trump politics and stereotyped her for being southern. If her name was on the lease and she did not violate the lease in some way she should sue the landlord for violating the contract. One thing Yankees understand is lawsuits.
"If her name was on the lease"

This kinda struck me, more then liley thet ALL had to sign the lease.

How long was the lease for?

Most renter don't wont and therefore do NOT do short term leases.

IF ALL signed the lease how can these other girls leave the apartment WITHOUT having to pay their portion of the rent for they duration of the lease.

It SHOULD give this woman time to find MORE people to replace the snowflakes.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:57 AM
 
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There is no God given right to leave loaded firearms lying around.

What a load of nonsense.
"What a load of nonsense" right back at you!

"There is no God given right to leave loaded firearms lying around.

No BUT, the CONSTITUTION states VERY CLEARLY, "The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR arms shall NOT BE INFRINGED"!

The Declaration of Independence which is the prelude to the Constitution.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...f_Independence

And those RIGHTS endowed by their Creator " were laid out in the Constitution VERY CLEARLY so, show us where in the Constitution CANNOT "leave loaded firearms laying around"

What good is an unloaded firearm for self defense?

Do you drain the gas tank of your car every time you park it? It COULD blow up you know.

YOUR FEAR has NO bearing on the law and REALITY.

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Old 12-05-2018, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Implied consent under law. By leaving her door unlocked while she was away, she gave her roommates implied consent for them to enter her room. "Her" living space notwithstanding.

As a homeowner, would YOU leave your front door wide open while you weren't at home?
Enter maybe, ransack her stuff, NO.
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