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Old 12-04-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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Nope. It's exactly the same reason why I can legally drive a vehicle in Massachusetts even though my driver's license was issued by another state, why my IL birth certificate has been accepted for any number of things in various other different US states in which I've been a legal resident, etc.

US Constitution, Article IV:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State."

While you are able to keep your IL driver's license if you live in Massachusetts as a non-resident, say as a student or on military assignment, this is not the same for guns.

Even as a non-resident, you are required to obtain a permit for your firearms. The only exception is if you are hunting, attending an exhibition of firearm collectors, or a shooting competition.

Massachusetts does not honor any other state permits. 0

https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws...etts-gun-laws/

BTW, only 24 states honor Massachusetts permits. Illinois is not one of them.


P.S Your IL birth certificate example is ridiculous. Of course, you can use your IL birth certificate. If you were born in Illinois, Massachusetts can't issue a certificate saying you were born in Massachusetts.

Some times I wonder about you.

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Old 12-04-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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I'm thinking that local MA authorities actually know better. Note that the student in question has not been arrested for having a firearm in MA. .
That's hilarious. I just spit out my coffee laughing. I needed that
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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While you are able to keep your IL driver's license if you live in Massachusetts as a non-resident, say as a student or on military assignment, this is not the same for registering guns.
It's exactly the same. I can drive my out-of-state registered vehicle in MA as much as I please. Why? US Constitution, Article IV:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State."
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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It's exactly the same. I can drive my out-of-state registered vehicle in MA as much as I please. Why? US Constitution, Article IV:

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State."
Stop it. Just stop it, I say.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:22 AM
 
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Stop it. Just stop it, I say.
Oh, if only.

Some act as if any old nonsense they post is the gospel truth.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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Stop it. Just stop it, I say.
Why? Are you afraid someone would exercise their Constitutional Rights? Are you afraid that that the US Constitution's Article IV might actually have to be observed? Or were you just making a point via sarcasm?
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Oh, if only.

Some act as if any old nonsense they post is the gospel truth.
The US Constitution's Article IV is not "nonsense," no matter how much you wish it didn't exist.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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So if you have a CCW Permit in one state, every single state in the Union MUST honor that permit under the Full Faith and Credit Law???? lol Try it and see what happens.

I was very surprised to learn when I moved permanently to Florida that the state did not recognize a NJ driver's license when applying for a new resident Florida driver's license. Really???? Yep. Take all your tests all over again? Fortunately, Florida did recognize NYS's.

Do you seriously think gun laws would be all encompassing from State to State? Each state has different laws.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Did it state that the guns did not have a locking mechanism? Mass law only require a locking mechanism or locked storage
There sure appeared to be several guns that were accessible ... loaded ... without locks. Not only were the guns apparently found in that condition, the roommates wrote that Pirnie told them she "kept" the guns "unloaded and unlocked."

The roommate memo (which was a request for assistance to the landlord written before this became public) stated Pirnie agreed after the house meeting to both use a trigger lock and a gun safe or other appropriate container. That goes beyond Massachusetts law, which as you point out only requires one of the two. Never were the roommates comfortable with the situation but that was the "compromise."

I'm assuming that gun owners need not specify reasons for owning guns in any Massachusetts (permit) but maybe they do. Me, I'd sure be uncomfortable with why Pirnie publicly said she had them:
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“Nobody has bothered to question, ‘Well, why do you want to have protection? Could it be because you've experienced something where you need to protect yourself as you see fit?'” she said, noting that she was in a physically abusive relationship in the past. “I have a real and legitimate reason as to why I want to protect myself.”
One mixture that cops hate encountering is domestic disturbance plus guns. It can be lethal. No way would I want my daughter to be living where there was some possibility that could play out depending on Pirnie's judgement.

We don't know what prompted the initial roommate search. I tend to believe Pirnie that it did occur; the roommates don't mention the discovery itself. Per Pirnie, various roommates later came up with "excuses" as if it were accidental. For all we know, she may well have discussed dating situations with her roommates and how she would want to handle another abusive situation leading her roommates to wonder if she actually had guns.

Regardless, the roommates now know how she might use them ... the landlord concluded the situation is too volatile, even to where he offered to mediate the final split ... she's gone public ... this is over with the gun safe and any MA permitting appearing on the scene way too late.

They need only finalize the divorce.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Why? Are you afraid someone would exercise their Constitutional Rights? Are you afraid that that the US Constitution's Article IV might actually have to be observed? Or were you just making a point via sarcasm?
No, I'm afraid the message might get lost through interminable repetition.
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