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Old 12-31-2018, 08:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
Agreed. Hire stupid employees....get stupid results.

That being said, if it's Cletus the redneck in a hotel lobby getting the boot, it never gets elevated to national news. Just like the KC serial killer that racially targeted victims.....just not interesting enough for ratings. We've seen this happen with bad police shootings too. Hispanic cop shooting black guy and the story just doesn't get promoted or have any staying power.

Because it doesn't attract the ratings. Pure and simple capitalism driven reporting.

Yep, with the largest market determining demographics being whites. Apparently whites are attracted to these stories more than the others.

 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is what happens when folks refuse to admit they made a mistake based on race.

Once he showed his key it should’ve been an apology and that would be the end of it.
Actually, I think he should have been comped at least a meal in the hotel's facilities. There is no excuse for treating him that way.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This ain’t clickbait. It happened, and it’s pretty damn egregious.
Believe it or not, I agree.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm lightly pigmented, and I don't care about crime rates. I don't see color, only different shades of pigment. To me, it's the person that counts. You trying to force me to be a racist doesn't make me a racist. In fact, I hardly ever in my personal life have encounters that could be measured by race. I mean, I go to Walmart, and buy my goods, I go to the gas station and buy my gas, and I live my life just going about my day. In my professional life, I am bound by law to not discriminate against anyone for any reason and I live by those laws. I'm sure that most of my friends live the same way I do... go to work, go to Walmart to buy stuff, spend the weekends with their kids etc...

It's only an issue to those who care to make it an issue, which in my opinion is a very small amount of folks in America.

The rest of us are just normal folks living normal lives raising normal kids and buying normal stuff, regardless of our shade of pigment.
Arguments here often come down to "Me" or "I" but that is irrelevant. "This happened to me once........."

You can argue all day that you do not see color and I have no reason to doubt that but the police officer that pulled over Philando Castile because he had a "wide set nose" was seeing color.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Apparently not.

I’m sure it’s because he was on the phone or wore sneakers in a loafers only zone.


https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/n...6-bf6c5a449c0a
Not in Portland....

if this is the worst thing that ever happens to him, he will be lucky.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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Boy, you can waffle. What a load of pony and trap. Defend this guy all you want. All he had to do was show his room key, and he didn't until the manager arrived. If he'd done that earlier, and kept his feet off the furniture he'd have been fine. He was loud and obnoxious according to the police.

I'll tell you who's got a superiority complex here......... it's you.

I am not really defending the guy. Yes, he could have probably deescalated the encounter and complied. If you get robbed or mugged on the street.....its also a good ideal to just comply and give up your cash and not try to resist. However, some peoples dignity is so strong that they don't.....and they fight and resist....and get shot. Sometimes even if you don't resist and give people what they want, they shoot you anyway. I am sure if a relative of yours got mugged and shot for resisting, that the whole thing would be your relatives fault.



Sometimes people are just not in the mood to acquiesce to being robbed of their possessions, whether it be money or dignity.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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The video also doesn’t show the possible flip side to that, the guard being a complete jerk to him, rudely accusing him of being homeless etc.. etc... See? I can make up all sorts of stories about what happened prior to the filming too, that, as I’ve pointed out here more than once, doesn’t make it factual.
And there lies my point, you can't judge what has happened by a short video and it can be used to deceive.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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We don't know whether or not Massey was being loud or quiet. We do know this though:

1. The hotel is downtown in an area with a homeless problem - hence the security guard. Generally speaking, Doubletree guests don't want the lobby to be a flop house for the local homeless population.

2. Massey was dressed very casually and had his feet up on the sofa and was talking on the phone. When he was approached, he did not initially offer any proof that he was a guest - he said in fact that he didn't remember his room number. This could have been avoided had he simply shown his key - which was in a packet, with the room number clearly marked on it. But he didn't do that, and became annoyed quickly and then whipped out his phone and started recording stuff, and yelling and claiming that he was a former FBI agent. (Anyone know anything about that yet? I can't find anything on his Instagram page though I do see TONS of photos of partying going on.)

According to his Instagram page, Massey travels a LOT. A whole lot. Internationally. Apparently to some very expensive locales. He should know how to behave in a Doubletree hotel lobby.
I know that when I stay at a hotel I rarely remember the exact room number I'm staying in. Usually it's written on the card holder and I rely on that. Should he have known his room number and just recited it when asked? It's rude to be questioned on such things.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Well you see showing the room key would have been too simple, it also interferes with the lawsuit.

I travel a couple of times a year to Ireland and the UK, have stayed at nice hotels where when you come in at 1am there are two men in nice suits who want to know you're a guest of the hotel, not just wandering in.

Never took offense, it's a safety issue.

And what kind of person puts their feet up on a sofa where people have to sit?
The DoubleTree is a 3 star hotel, pretty middle of the road. Putting your feet up on a sofa is a pretty common thing at hotels like this.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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No because it doesn’t matter what is on his social media. I don’t care about his drinking, partying, supposed poor grammar. If he posted about his masterful plan to get a couple of Doubletree employees fired, I would find that incredibly suspect. Outside of that, I don’t see how it matters.
It's a "side story" as the poster indicated earlier. It seems like for her, side stories matter because she finds them useful in figuring out how to evaluate a separate situation that happens later. Others, including me, see side stories as prejudicial and irrelevant.
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