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Old 02-18-2019, 05:50 PM
 
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EVERY developed nation in the world has healthcare for folks. Except the US. And they do so on average spending 1/2 of what we do on it. last year we spent more then 10,739 per person for healthcare. Median Family income of 59,000, median family size is 2.6. So the median family income is 59K, and the median family medical spending is 27K. So if we had a 50% tax rate, and it covered all our medical, we would be better off overall.


If you are saying "But *I* don't spend that much" the answer is-you probably do. through taxes you pay for medicare, through insurance paid by your employer, etc. A ton of it is hidden from you. My insurance is around $1,500 a month, but my employer pays all but 250 of it.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Boston
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obesity laws and 20% of your salary.
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Old 02-18-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If there is "medicare for all", as a physician, I will have to quit practicing, as my practice would go bankrupt. I could simply do legal work, which I do already, and still be employed in a capacity as a physician, but not practicing clinically. Currently I can make more money working two weekends a month doing legal work than I can full time at my practice.


As I am approaching medicare age, I am conflicted about medicare. I know that physicians and hospitals put medicare patients "behind" commercial insurance; I have a few medical problems for which I want to be "first in line" and will thus never go on medicare. With better paying commercial insurance, I am assured of getting better treatment.


The problem with the commercial insurance is that I am uninsureable, due to previous conditions, such that I cannot buy a commercial policy on my own and must be employed by a larger group.


I think some form of universal healthcare would be nice for patients, but I personally would want private insurance as well to get better care.
Your concerns about your own healthcare versus Medicare are exactly the reason private insurers need to be eliminated. If you are a physician, you took the Hippocratic Oath, which as I recall had no mention of the ability of a patient to pay. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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Obesity laws? That should be fun.

I can just see it: "Police! Put down that spoon, ma'am, and move back from the table. Do you have a permit for that banana split?"
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Old 02-18-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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When something is effecting 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the population. The problem isn't with individuals, it's with the society.
We're all VICTIMS I tell ya!


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Old 02-18-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Your concerns about your own healthcare versus Medicare are exactly the reason private insurers need to be eliminated. If you are a physician, you took the Hippocratic Oath, which as I recall had no mention of the ability of a patient to pay. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Typical Dem wants total control, no freedom of choice.
I assume you work for free out of the goodness of your heart? Perhaps minimum wage because that makes you a better person. God forbid someone pays a lot of money for specialized training, expecting to make a living later.
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Sorry, OP. You lost me at "Washington Examiner"
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:01 PM
 
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The 2020 elections will answer that question. You are stating what may happen. I'm wondering if that is wise. The Supreme Court is remarkably partisan, conservatives are in the majority and the Koch brothers are not dead yet so there will be challenges to a new law that both insures all and makes the very rich pay for it.

There will never be a law that makes the very rich pay for anything. The feds don't even have the authority to tax wealth. Like everything else, Medicare for all would be paid for by working Americans for the benefit of the parasites at the top and bottom.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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People believe this

You all are so weird.

When something is effecting 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 percent of the population. The problem isn't with individuals, it's with the society.
It’s often easier to blame than take personal responsibility.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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And this increases GDP and job growth and Pharma and Hospital profits, right?
Most Diabetes 2 is preventable. Despite this, seems no shortage of us prefer to blame than take personal responsibility.
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