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Old 02-18-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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I just had to ask, didn't I?
I wasn't responding to you, just pondering the future of Mediwelfare for all.

I ponder people surrendering freedom for comfort and never reading the fine print on their Faustian Bargain. And when I do that, books/films like "Nineteen Eighty Four" transform into a Frommer's Travel Guide for the future.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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That is my understanding regarding the Medicare for All proponents. They just want free stuff, paid for by others.
The poor have medicaid.
The rich have their millions.

The middle class has its homes, and its savings to a diminishing extent. Then they are homeless.


The middle class is the backbone of this country. They don't want anything for free, but they don't want to be ruined because of a serious illness. They however are the only ones not covered.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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I wasn't responding to you, just pondering the future of Mediwelfare for all.

I ponder people surrendering freedom for comfort and never reading the fine print on their Faustian Bargain. And when I do that, books/films like "Nineteen Eighty Four" transform into a Frommer's Travel Guide for the future.
If only there were examples of universal healthcare elsewhere...
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:19 PM
 
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Put them on the scale and charge per pound?

BigPharma doesn't want to cure anyone. No wonder there are more and more people going to alternative doctors and clinics. Even some classically trained doctors are offering integrative medicine now.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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Shut up and eat your celery fatasses.
Celery with almond butter, peanut butter or hummus is delicious.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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60 years ago, about 45% of the US population was overweight/ obese. Today, 75% of us are overweight/ obese and as such are substantially more vulnerable to serious diseases that use to be fatal. Now these diseases are treatable. Treatment is costly.

The average cost to treat Diabetes is approaching $10,000/ year. According to the CDC, more than 100 million US people are Diabetic or prediabetic.

If premiums were based on waist sizes, those with waist measures in the so called generous and healthy range would pay substantially less than those with larger waist sizes. This could apply to public insurance, too.

Unless/ until the masses take personal responsibility for controlling weight, healthcare costs will continue to climb.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Medicare is not free.

After 40-50 years of pre- paying premiums, most folk 65 and older become eligible for Medicare insurance.

It’s not free. It has limitations. Most also have Supplimental Insurance to help pay for that which Medicare does not.

What might the premium be in absence of 40-50 years of prepaid premiums?
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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Fedgov could do it, they have endless dollar$.

Does any sane person want Fedgov to do this, nope........and for very good reasons.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:10 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Fedgov could do it, they have endless dollar$.

Does any sane person want Fedgov to do this, nope........and for very good reasons.
You don't have to rely on the federal government - plenty of private companies handle Medicare claims and different "Medicare Advantage Plans' cam be purchased from them, etc. Also Medicare supplement plans.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:35 PM
 
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The average cost to treat Diabetes is approaching $10,000/ year. According to the CDC, more than 100 million US people are Diabetic or prediabetic.
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And this increases GDP and job growth and Pharma and Hospital profits, right?
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