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Old 06-02-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
Um, people are allowed to move.

If you can't afford to live in San Diego, then you need to move to a location you can afford, instead of pompously demanding that everyone subsidize your Life-Style.

Homo Erectus and Homo Habilis were smart enough to move, why aren't those people?
In all fairness and/or realistically speaking which I think ought to be the goal in general...

People who are homeless don't have much if anything to gain by moving. Right? If you've got nothing, little-to-no prospect for employment, maybe with a screw loose or two along with any number of the other problems that somehow make a homeless person homeless, moving from a place with nice weather like San Diego to where is going to make a difference?

Early sapiens migrated as a group, generally to go from where there was less food to where there was more food. Also to follow where the weather was more accommodating. Over time we began to think and reason better than all too many conservatives seem able to do today when it comes to these rather challenging modern day problems.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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I know how the hell to fix it, and have been saying it for years, BUILD THE CAMPS AND SHIP THEM OUT THERE


Bob.
"We are going to send you to a camp where your needs will be met, and you can be around your own people." There's some sort of historical precedent here...
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:56 AM
 
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Well there's a little complication to that easy fix, it's call the US Constitution
Conservatives don't appreciate anyone complicating matters with such issues.
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Old 06-02-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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What programs Icy? Please list those programs that hand out food and necessities.
Actually, there are many programs out there to help the homeless...

"Volunteers of America works to prevent and end homelessness through a range of support services including eviction prevention, emergency services, transitional housing and permanent affordable housing. Once we engage homeless individuals, including youth and families with children, we stay with them for as long as it takes to return them to self-sufficiency."

https://www.voa.org/homeless-people

Unfortunately, lots of homeless people don't take advantage of these programs and/or the programs just don't work as well as anyone would like for another variety of challenging reasons.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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People who are homeless don't have much if anything to gain by moving. Right? If you've got nothing, little-to-no prospect for employment, maybe with a screw loose or two along with any number of the other problems that somehow make a homeless person homeless, moving from a place with nice weather like San Diego to where is going to make a difference?
It's the universal conservative answer: "Just stop having your problem." Just don't be homeless! - don't be an addict, don't be poor, don't be sick, don't be old. Try out not being homeless, it's just that simple.

And of course homeless will congregate where there's an understanding that they're actual humans. Eke out a living in a tent in San Diego vs. being at the mercy of some podunk Alabama sheriff is not a hard choice.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:14 PM
 
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It's the universal conservative answer: "Just stop having your problem." Just don't be homeless! - don't be an addict, don't be poor, don't be sick, don't be old. Try out not being homeless, it's just that simple.

And of course homeless will congregate where there's an understanding that they're actual humans. Eke out a living in a tent in San Diego vs. being at the mercy of some podunk Alabama sheriff is not a hard choice.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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It's the universal conservative answer: "Just stop having your problem." Just don't be homeless! - don't be an addict, don't be poor, don't be sick, don't be old. Try out not being homeless, it's just that simple.

And of course homeless will congregate where there's an understanding that they're actual humans. Eke out a living in a tent in San Diego vs. being at the mercy of some podunk Alabama sheriff is not a hard choice.
Does your concern for the homeless go beyond advocacy and voting for tax increases? Do you run out to gather the homeless into your house when it starts raining? If not, why not? Otherwise, your endless sanctimony is more than a bit tiresome.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Heres a fallacy of the far right:
The homeless can get off the street if they are willing to. There are programs in place to help them do that.
Ha. Dont have a clue. You have to earn 4 or 5 times minimum wage and have near perfect credit to get into a modest apt in san diego. The "programs" are generally lip service for politicians and the public to pretend they are doing something.
As for relocating yeah sure. Tell people living hand to mouth on the street that they are supposed to travel 1000 miles to a city with a harsh climate where they dont know anyone and its going to get better.
Wow this is way off - Current minimum wage is $12 an hour in San Diego so you are saying you have to make $48 to $60/hr or essentially $100-120k a year to get a modest apartment, that is not even close to the truth. Minimum wage will allow you to afford a rent for a modest apartment in San Diego area.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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We should be trying to solve these big problems, along w/ so many other issues, but we get to focus on T's tweets and his twitter rage. I think all of this chaos is really a smartly played role, a smokescreen, for his inability to solve the big problems we have.
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Old 06-02-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Does your concern for the homeless go beyond advocacy and voting for tax increases? Do you run out to gather the homeless into your house when it starts raining? If not, why not? Otherwise, your endless sanctimony is more than a bit tiresome.
Your estimation of my personal involvement should concern me, because?
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