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Old 06-07-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Believed they were about to be a lot richer. Democrats after being hit hard on Wall Street from the dot-com bust at the end of Clinton's administration, saw dollar signs with defense stocks.
If the Democrats are so Pro Wall Street then how come Occupy Wall Street took place which was all Democrats as we are told?
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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It truly is all the same S*it. From Gulf of Tonkin to WMD now this garbage. Enough American blood has been spilt in the Middle East. Screw those who want war.
Most middle east wars have been at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Israel.
Iraq was allegedly going to roll into Saudi Arabia after they invaded Kuwait and they called their lapdog, that being us to stop it.

I remember Bush Senior on the tv talking about spreading freedom and democracy and liberating Iraq.
Most people back then swallowed the propaganda hook, line and sinker. We now see through the BS.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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If the Democrats are so Pro Wall Street then how come Occupy Wall Street took place which was all Democrats as we are told?
Occupy's message to Obama.

"Mr. President: Over 4,000 peaceful protesters have been arrested while bankers continue to destroy the economy. You must stop the assault on our First Amendment rights. Your silence sends a message that police brutality is acceptable. Banks got bailed out. We got sold out."
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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Both parties have foolhardily and enthusiastically supported war.
Dollars to Donuts, the ones that supported the war had no skin in the game but they certainly had a monetary incentive to push it.
The majority of the enlisted are among the lower class that do not benefit from the riches war brings.

You have some in the military in the middle and upper class, but most of those are officers, not enlisted.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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If the Democrats are so Pro Wall Street then how come Occupy Wall Street took place which was all Democrats as we are told?

Those who oppose the banks , high interest rates and the wall street are labelled democrats. or liberals. or worse anti semites. Read some of my posts and you will know.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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No, the Taliban was not hosting Al Qaeda. That's like saying Pakistan was and we didn't invade them. Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan but there was little to nothing the Taliban could do about it.

To back this point.........18 years with no end in site. We didn't invade Pakistan.

Syria, Libya and Yemen was a mistake based upon lies also.



Al Queda was monetarily backed by half the Saudi Royals. There was a split in the kingdom on those who backed them and backed Saudi funded madrases with their Wahhabi doctrines and those against it.
Most of the people in Al Queda were drawn from those madrases to train in Jihad, a major pillar of Islam.

They say the Saudi Royal Family has been reformed but based on their record number of beheading lately, I would say it is business as usual. Speak out against the Saudis and it is off with your head, it has always been that way.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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Al Queda was monetarily backed by half the Saudi Royals. There was a split in the kingdom on those who backed them and backed Saudi funded madrases with their Wahhabi doctrines and those against it.
Most of the people in Al Queda were drawn from those madrases to train in Jihad, a major pillar of Islam.
I don't disagree that they had S.A. funding. We funded them also.

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They say the Saudi Royal Family has been reformed but based on their record number of beheading lately, I would say it is business as usual. Speak out against the Saudis and it is off with your head, it has always been that way.
You won't find me clamoring for the U.S. to support them.
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Old 06-07-2019, 01:57 PM
 
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Occupy's message to Obama.

"Mr. President: Over 4,000 peaceful protesters have been arrested while bankers continue to destroy the economy. You must stop the assault on our First Amendment rights. Your silence sends a message that police brutality is acceptable. Banks got bailed out. We got sold out."
Yep, which means it is a dog and pony show.
Had the Republicans been in power, it would have played so much better for the propaganda artists.
The politicians bank rolled by the finance sector were caught with their pants down, and as expected nothing was done.
At the political level, Dem and Pub politicians work for their deep pocket masters.
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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We did that already when we used Iraq as a proxy. They failed miserably. The Iranians aren’t dumb. They smelled a rat and defended their nation accordingly at GREAT cost, and they didn’t falter. They held firm.

No regional power can take down Iran. They’re too formidable, too big, too populous, too mountainous, too proud and too dedicated in the patriotic Persian ideal. They know who they are as a people. They aren’t gonna be taken down a peg by Arabs.
That is all so very true, and they would likely have a 21st century democracy were it not for the looming threat of U.S. military action, which helps keep their despotic regime in power. They are young, educated, and desperately wish to be a part of the civilized world without economic sanctions. Pres. Obama was facilitating this transformation before the neocons v.2.0 pulled the ole' switcheroo.
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Old 06-07-2019, 02:47 PM
 
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Yep, which means it is a dog and pony show.
Which means nothing of the sort. Unless you are claiming this about claims from the majority of politicians
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