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Old 07-17-2019, 12:13 PM
Status: "You showed me mercy and all I can do is say Thank You." (set 8 days ago)
 
Location: New York
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When a thread starts with "what if" it is doomed to fail.


Trump has it in the bag. He will win the popular vote this time (by 4M) and the house will flip back.


Write it down. Add it to your notes, set an alarm. Come back in 17 months and tell me I was wrong.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RollsRoyce1 View Post
IF Donald Trump loses the white house in 2020, and it is a big IF, we collectively need to start ignoring him, his tweets and his followers.......
Why wait until 2020? Just do it now if he rattles your cage too much.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:31 PM
 
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The people don't elect the president...the states do that.

If you are unhappy with the current system, amend the Constitution.

Wait...am i allowed to amend the constitution? Sweet Jesus, I had no idea that I could that!
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:32 PM
 
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When a thread starts with "what if" it is doomed to fail.


Trump has it in the bag. He will win the popular vote this time (by 4M) and the house will flip back.


Write it down. Add it to your notes, set an alarm. Come back in 17 months and tell me I was wrong.
Will do. I definitely believe he will "win" the "election" in 2020, but no way he wins the vote of the people. No way. Guaranteed.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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Yes of course Trump lost the popular vote but won the Presidency in the electoral college. But the undeniable fact is the majority of citizens who cast their ballots didnít vote for Trump. Thatís a fact and a reason for what many see as as an antiquated and unfair presidential election process conceived hundreds of years ago in a much different United States.
If those people didnít also have that same feeling before the 2000 election, then it isnít the process that they object to, just what the process wrought in two of the last five Presidential elections.
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Old 07-17-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Trump is going to WIN! And every brutal CNN lying report will triple when our President is re-elected!
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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See we do agree !!! ( bold above )

He stopped the momentum of decline by stopping Crooked Hillary and turn around the ship towards prosperity !!!

You do realize that "crooked hillary" turned out to be russian propaganda, retweeted by Trump (and others). Looks like you got duped.

It's sad that you, Trump and the rest of his base are so excited about the demise of America. I guarantee you if and when he looses, he'll be at the help, leading the scorched earth agenda. He's already hinted at it, and you are showing that you are among many willing followers.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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Yes of course Trump lost the popular vote but won the Presidency in the electoral college. But the undeniable fact is the majority of citizens who cast their ballots didn’t vote for Trump. That’s a fact and a reason for what many see as as an antiquated and unfair presidential election process conceived hundreds of years ago in a much different United States.
Somehow I doubt you'd have the same worries if Hillary had won despite the fact she didn't capture a majority of the popular vote either. Let's face it, the real reason why so many Democrats want to ditch the electoral college (or let non-citizens vote or lower the voting age to 16 or let felons vote or let felons STILL IN PRISON vote) is because Hillary lost and by changing the rules they enhance their chances of winning.

The fact is we don't know if Hillary would have won the popular vote absent the EC system because the current state-by-state winner-take-all voting system alters voting incentives and behaviors versus a straight-up popular vote. And Democrats really ought to be careful what they wish for re: ditching the electoral college because the evolving electoral map is making it increasingly difficult for Republicans to win. Not only does the GOP have to run the table on traditionally red AND "lean-red" states but they have to capture nearly all of the battleground states along with them. Democrats on the other hand have a huge margin to work with -- they can lose all but a couple battleground states and still win.

The main method the EC worked against Hillary is not that it handed the election to Trump despite Hillary's best efforts; on the contrary it made her so overconfident she thought she could coast on that huge margin without putting in the minimal legwork to shore up the "lean-blue" states. That's not an electoral college problem, that's a candidate problem.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Wait...am i allowed to amend the constitution? Sweet Jesus, I had no idea that I could that!
OK, so what's all the bitching about?
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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If Trump were to lose !!!
The country will descend into anarchy and poverty where citizenship has no value !!! Living hell !!!

According to democrats the President can't be above the law but all illegals entering can be !!!

The double standard will be enforced and grow into a self-consuming monster !!!
Wow and you guys accuse us of having TDS?
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