American farmer: Trump 'took away all of our markets' (generations, Australia, world)

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

question is there a decline in the export markets?


Hint - yes


lol


another question --- did you read what you linked as back up to your argument?

Oh my goodness, how low of a level does this need to be broken down for you?

In the last 50 years we have not had more food imports than exports because we produce more food than we consume.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Oh my goodness, how low of a level does this need to be broken down for you?

In the last 50 years we have not had more food imports than exports because we produce more food than we consume.

So if it stays in inventory --- how does the producer make money?


PS: while I have enjoyed this --- I have to work in the morning, so I'm headed to sleep. we'll have to pick this up later.

[AlongTheI-5]

The US has exported agricultural goods than we have imported for decades. That is not the argument. That is a straw man. We do know that Trump’s policies is hurting the farmer. The right wing’s solution? More socialism.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

So if it stays in inventory --- how does the producer make any money?

Do you even remember what you are arguing?

Let me refresh your TDS clouded memory.

I stated that we have more than enough food for our population:

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

We have more than enough food to feed our population.

We import food for two reasons:

1. To get it cheaper.

2. To get things that would be out of season here.

And you countered:

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

Yea ... you keep telling yourself that.

The FACTS are that we produce more food than we need, which is why we export more than we import and why we sit on billions of bushels of produce.

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by AlongTheI-5

The US has exported agricultural goods than we have imported for decades. That is not the argument. That is a straw man. We do know that Trump’s policies is hurting the farmer. The right wing’s solution? More socialism.

Tell that to the person who began arguing that isn't a fact.

See post above.

[nyyfanatic85]

Trust me, my whole family is full of farmers. They all support Trump even though they took one on the chin with the tariffs. And they all say that the media loves a good story and goes around until they find that one Trump-bashing farmer, they get him to dress up in his overalls and look the part, say "he's going to lose the family farm," doesn't know how he's gonna make it, etc. It's all misleading and doesn't tell near the whole story. My family farmers were reluctant Trump voters in 2016, will be solidly for Trump in 2020.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by AlongTheI-5

The US has exported agricultural goods than we have imported for decades. That is not the argument. That is a straw man. We do know that Trump’s policies is hurting the farmer. The right wing’s solution? More socialism.

That was FDR's solution to the Great Depression where as there was a surplus driving prices down ... Government has been monkeying around with the markets long time now --- the one's hurt are the consumers ... farmers too, when they loose their farms. But then trumpet has a bail out handy for 'em.

[AlongTheI-5]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Do you even remember what you are arguing?

Let me refresh your TDS clouded memory.

I stated that we have more than enough food for our population:



And you countered:



The FACTS are that we produce more food than we need, which is why we export more than we import and why we sit on billions of bushels of produce.

Sitting on “billions of bushels” is a business practice to drive up prices. Should we support this with socialism?

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Do you even remember what you are arguing?

Let me refresh your TDS clouded memory.

I stated that we have more than enough food for our population:



And you countered:



The FACTS are that we produce more food than we need, which is why we export more than we import and why we sit on billions of bushels of produce.

How does the producer make any money if the product stays in inventory ... ?

[AlongTheI-5]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

That was FDR's solution to the Great Depression where as there was a surplus driving prices down ... Government has been monkeying around with the markets long time now --- the one's hurt are the consumers ... farmers too, when they loose their farms. But then trumpet has a bail out handy for 'em.

The thing is, the right wing is supposed to be against socialism. They tell us all the time.