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Old 08-04-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The 2nd amendment wasn't a mistake, but it's outdated. Guns won't prevent government tyranny or aggression with modern military fire power (which filters down to local police).

Assault rifles, high capacity magazines, and other mods that improve killing capacity need to be banned.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Isn't a well regulated militia different from stockpiling weapons in your home? It says nothing of the sort in the amendment that that is okay. The intention is the people can bear arms under a well regulated militia.

I've read the amendment ad naseum and while the language is vague it actually alludes to forming local militiaries to keep the federal government at bay.

Using this logic, if San Jose, CA formed a militia I could sign up part-time and train on whatever weapons available. But it doesn't mean I can stockpile them in my house. The intention of the amendment was that if the federal government overreached and declared martial law using the army to bully our local district theoretically the San Jose militia could be used to protect the region's interest. Then I could show up at my local militia center with other local citizens don up in body armor and use whatever weapons available to fight the army.
WRONG.

It is the tight of the individual, which is why it's in the Bill of Rights.

There is just so much ignorance in regards to the Constitution. People don't even know why there is a section called the Bill of Rights.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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And they shot nine rounds a minute. By comparison, an AK47 can shoot up to 600 rounds per minute.

But they're the same thing, right?

A semi-auto AK47 is never going to shoot 600 rounds per minute, with reasonable aim you might be at 20+/- depending on your skill level.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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The 2nd amendment wasn't a mistake, but it's outdated. Guns won't prevent government tyranny or aggression with modern military fire power (which filters down to local police).

Assault rifles, high capacity magazines, and other mods that improve killing capacity need to be banned.
Why didn't we win the war in Afghanistan in a few weeks?

How many figher planes, bomber and nukes do the Afghanis have?
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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A semi-auto AK47 is never going to shoot 600 rounds per minute, with reasonable aim you might be at 20+/- depending on your skill level.
I want to know who sells a 600 round magazine for an AK.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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Exactly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LORVfnFtcH0
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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It's very rare for SCOTUS to reverse itself.







That is the view of more liberal Justices, it's certainly not the view of the entire court.
"It's very rare for SCOTUS to reverse itself."

Not really. MANY old rulings have been overturned by later courts.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The gun nuts have taken over our collective American asylum. The killing won't stop until we defeat them at the ballot box which I don't expect to see in my lifetime (unfortunately).

Living pathetic/boring lives these gun nuts want to attach a sense of grandeur to their lives. So they tell themselves it is their "sacred duty" to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

Anything to make going to Applebee's with their obese wives more palpable. Yet, the biggest health threat they face is that burger they are chomping on for the 100th time at Applebee's.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Assault rifles, high capacity magazines, and other mods that improve killing capacity need to be banned.

And when the shootings still happen after the guns are banned then what?
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:49 AM
 
Location: California
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WRONG.

It is the tight of the individual, which is why it's in the Bill of Rights.

There is just so much ignorance in regards to the Constitution. People don't even know why there is a section called the Bill of Rights.
The second amendment states:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

While the second half states that people should be able to bear arms its a continuation from the first clause. A well regulated militia does not mean a bunch of private citizens stockpiling dangerous weapons in their closet and shooting whoever they feel like. It means literally forming a local militia to keep the federal government in check, and it must be well regulated.

Imagine for example if San Francisco decided they wouldn't deport anyone and during the next ICE raid the SF militia showed up with tanks and told the immigrations officers to get lost or be killed. Or if a farming district in Iowa refused to abide by the national tariffs and when threatened by the Federal government deployed it's local militia to make it's case.

That is what Jefferson envisaged by keeping power in the hands of the people.
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