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Old 08-25-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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How is opposing illegal immigration while still embracing legal immigration espousing xenophobia and fear mongering?????

 
Old 08-25-2019, 11:48 AM
 
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In case you haven't read history, America hasn't been so "great" in a lot of areas.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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In case you haven't read history, America hasn't been so "great" in a lot of areas.
What countries havent had sins in their past! Even with our past sins I think overall we’ve been a force of good in the world!
 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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This actually was a long time coming. The older emigre Cuban American generation of the 1960s were animated by knee-jerk anti-Communism and antipathy to Castro. The younger generations, not so much, as they're more concerned with things in America itself. This is more so in Florida where sentiments are stronger, than for communities elsewhere.

So that means that Cuban Americans, once overwhelmingly Republican in voting habits, have been becoming less so over the past decades.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...131-story.html
 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:08 PM
 
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What countries havent had sins in their past! Even with our past sins I think overall we’ve been a force of good in the world!
Some good yes, some not so good.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Older conservatives (and old people in general) need to come to grips with the fact that economic success is much harder to obtain for their children than it was for their own generation. Student debt and inflated housing prices are the main problems.

Student debt is growing mostly because employers demand credentials for jobs that don't need them. It creates a rat race with negative economic effects. Employers are benefitting from keeping the costs of human capital development off their books, and don't care that these costs are sucking more and more capital out of more productive investments. It's a tragedy of the commons, the commons being an educated workforce which no employer wants to invest in but every employer wants to take advantage of. I see it every day at work where companies are all trying to poach the same employees from each other and no one wants to hire anyone without experience or credentials. The liberals do have a point here; companies broke the social contract and the costs of the new arrangement fall mostly on the young.

Another reason student debt is exploding is that state funding for public universities has been cut to shore up public employee pension systems. I squarely blame liberals for this state of affairs.

However both cases have been one of the older generation pulling up the ladders.

Housing is more complicated, but in short the metro areas with the most desirable jobs are built out such that commuting from edge sprawl has become unbearable. It's much harder to afford housing comparable to what the older generation achieved - by buying at the metro edge - because the metro edge is so far from job centers that commutes are 1-2 hours one way. So younger people are forced to buy infill development in closer-in areas whose build costs are higher.

Also, older people are living longer than their own parents did, and more often have enough savings to age in place. This means there are many three and four bedroom houses across the country inhabited by empty nesters. That is a huge misallocation of space. I don't blame the elderly for doing this; I would do the same. However it's a problem that the current elderly did not have to contend with as much when they were starting out.
Maybe every young person isn't entitled to the most desirable jobs in the most desirable cities. At the least they should have the stamina for an hour+ commute, which many of us have done for most of our working years.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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That's one anecdotal story in one community.

Luckily, Gen Z is neither conservative nor liberal. They're libertarian.

https://time.com/4909722/trump-mille...licans-voters/
You mean they want all the stuff but don't want to pay?

"Libertarians" have always had these tricks......

Hey, we're not against pot.
Take the worlds shortest political quiz (PUT UP by Libertarians and...lo and behold...almost everyone that takes it is a libertarian).

Being a Libertarian means free ice cream for every meal. You only get the good stuff....and there is no need for that silly stuff like sacrifice.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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You mean they want all the stuff but don't want to pay?

"Libertarians" have always had these tricks......

Hey, we're not against pot.
Take the worlds shortest political quiz (PUT UP by Libertarians and...lo and behold...almost everyone that takes it is a libertarian).

Being a Libertarian means free ice cream for every meal. You only get the good stuff....and there is no need for that silly stuff like sacrifice.
Do you ever get tired of posting lies, ignorance, and garbage?
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You mean they want all the stuff but don't want to pay?

"Libertarians" have always had these tricks......

Hey, we're not against pot.
Take the worlds shortest political quiz (PUT UP by Libertarians and...lo and behold...almost everyone that takes it is a libertarian).

Being a Libertarian means free ice cream for every meal. You only get the good stuff....and there is no need for that silly stuff like sacrifice.
You confuse (L)ibertarians with (l)ibertarians and AnCaps.

They're not even close to the same thing.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This actually was a long time coming. The older emigre Cuban American generation of the 1960s were animated by knee-jerk anti-Communism and antipathy to Castro. The younger generations, not so much, as they're more concerned with things in America itself. This is more so in Florida where sentiments are stronger, than for communities elsewhere.

So that means that Cuban Americans, once overwhelmingly Republican in voting habits, have been becoming less so over the past decades.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...131-story.html
I am a Cuban American so the politics of the older generation were centered around what was going on inside Cuba and not America itself.
Cuban Americans are now into their 3rd. & 4th. generations in America so their political beliefs aren't tied to the island so much.
The younger generation is concerned with healthcare & college education costs as well.
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