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Old 09-09-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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They claim not to like the mice, but they never remove the cheese.
You get it. That simple minded logic of let the illegals build the wall is a symptom of too much kool aid. What's lacking is logic. You can't just go on someone's property and start building anything you want. Eminent Domain cases can take years. It's bad enough that team Trump doesn't acknowledge that dear leader's company broke the law by hiring and helping illegals get the "right" paper work. Trump continued to keep them working well into his presidency.

Is it better to start another hate thread, or is it better to discuss facts intelligently?
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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If we're going to build a wall, I'd much rather have the work go to professionals. Leave the criminals in their cells.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: London
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Not a huge fan of slave labor. Because underpaid prison labor is a thing in the US, corporations have incentive to lobby for unnecessarily draconian laws and sentences, because more people locked up = more exploitative labor for them to take advantage of.

Ideas like OP mentioned reinforces a bad precedent.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Much cheaper alternative, like they employ in Israel: land mines with big signs in English/Spanish. Then you could even tear down the fences!
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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But it can get started this afternoon. Takes nothing but an order from the DoJ.
Well, IIRC, perhaps a cemetery for veterans needs moving. I am not clear if they will or will not go around it.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: London
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Much cheaper alternative, like they employ in Israel: land mines with big signs in English/Spanish. Then you could even tear down the fences!
The US should really not strive to be more like the Middle East.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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Why would you want the wall built with unskilled labor?

Texas used to have prison farms where the inmates raised their own food. IIRC, the courts ruled against slavery.

Now they are paid. The state used prison labor to send out the renewal notices for auto licenses. But they have to pay.
And those are state prisons. I really dont think a president has the authority to make state prison inmates do anything. Federal inmates for that matter.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Re-read my post #41 and then come back and tell that the good physical barriers are a waste of money along with my remarks that not all illegals are coming here to work. Those that are would still continue to come here for birthright citizenship for their kids, thus the wall. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would think that those good barriers aren't a deterrant and aren't very effective when the facts speak otherwise.

Yes, go after the employers but that isn't the total solution!
What makes you think I read your post to begin with?

I did mention ending birthright citizenship.

A wall is like a lock on the door; it only keeps honest people out.

Without fixing employment verification where it is impossible to get a job if you are illegal nothing will change with a wall. Tunnel under it, go over the top or hop a boat and go around.
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Old 09-09-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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It would be fitting justice for those who were captured or caught crossing illegally or purposely overstaying their visas, to be forced to build that wall. The left would scream bloody murder. But it would be hilarious. And also a deterrent. Getting your ass kicked back to Mexico is not much of a deterrent. Being forced to bust your butt in 110 degree heat building a wall, with just tortillas and beans, now I think we fixed our problem in a stroke of a pen.

There I fixed it for you.
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Old 09-09-2019, 01:42 PM
 
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If we're going to build a wall, I'd much rather have the work go to professionals. Leave the criminals in their cells.


I think you'd be very surprised at what companies have used prison labor in the past and present. Many I'm sure you've bought from in the top 100 S&P.



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