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Old 10-07-2019, 07:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Clinton was the democratic "yes" man for corporate america's NAFTA agreement and as a result the United States became a country dependent on globalization.

It was the beginning of the political selling out of the working and middle class by politicians for global corporate power and global wealth of which all incumbent politicians have financial interests.

The main reason that fellow politicians are upset with trump winning is that it has upset the continuation of their plan.

The existing political fight is not between democrats and republicans. It's between wealthy vs all other social classes.
So the Democrats exacerbated the fight between the wealthy and all other social classes, with the Democrats being on the side of the wealthy. And I'm guessing Republicans or Trump supporters make up the other social classes? Sounds a bit like Communism to me. Please keep your stories straight. Are the Democrats Communists or not?
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:43 PM
 
Location: NY
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Labor relations were better in the recent past (1950s - 1990s), and there was less inequality. The economy of this country really started tanking as soon as China joined the WTO and we’ve been faltering ever since. We’ve been trying to keep things going with ultra-low interest rates, but all that has done is inflate housing costs, which hits the young particularly hard. Throw in student loans, and you have a recipe for disaster for young people.

But socially, we are much better off today than during my childhood in the 1980s. I’ll tell you a little story: back in the late 1980s my father went “off the deep end” with religion, and it was socially acceptable. Everyone in my extended family thought it was just fine...a blessing from a literal invisible sky creature. That was the baby boom generation in rural western Pennsylvania (which is about one or two generations behind the American mainstream).

Today, the children of that generation, including those in my extend family, see that for what it is: literally crazy. Look at levels of religiosity among the younger generations...it is tanking. America is finally starting to exit the Middle Ages and join the modern world.

OP, do you really want to go back to the 1980s and before, when a significant portion of the Americans adult population was basing their lives (and votes) on ancient superstition? Look at the gay marriage ruling; that would have been impossible several decades ago when religion was much more powerful.
Opinion: Let this one sink in kid..........
The further the sheep stray from the flock the more visible they are to the wolves.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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1970s was best

After integration but before everyone deserves a trophy propaganda.
Yes the 70's were pretty good. The hedonistic party from the 60's was still going on, morals were loose, and I was single.
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Old 10-07-2019, 07:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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Opinion: Let this one sink in kid..........
The further the sheep stray from the flock the more visible they are to the wolves.
Lamb is delicious. It’s been awhile since I’ve had it though.
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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You should have been around in 1968. That was some scary sh$#.
What is coming will make 1968 look like Eisenhower’s 50’s or Reagan’s 80s. The mass division in our nation is irreconcilable and dangerous beyond belief. What is coming could end up looking like 1862.The radicalism on the left is driving this nation towards the abyss, people need to wake up and see what is happening. Our democracy and our nation itself are at risk. We need to step back and re dedicate ourselves to our capitalist principles, our traditional values and the constitution. Most of all we need to return to God. We must rebuke the radicals and send them back under the rocks from which they crawled. If we allow the radicals to gain power this nation will likely burn.
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Old 10-08-2019, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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So you admit it was better when whites dominated. Kind of a white nationalist post. I dont think that's the way you meant but basically you are saying it was better when poc were in the extreme minority and had no say. Why would that be?
First, I am not a "white nationalist" in the sense that I don't think that whites are better than any other "race" or ethnicity, and I have made that clear in literally hundreds (or at least many dozens) of my posts. To say it again, I also firmly believe that people who are not Euro-white, Christian, and heterosexual have been treated shamefully ever since European settlers first came to this country and are still, overall, not treated as well as straight "WASPs" today.

However, I do admit that I think the U.S. has gone to hell since 9/11 -- but I think that this opinion on that has at least as much to do with my age (66) as it does with my being Euro-white and straight. (I am an agnostic, so "Christian" doesn't describe me, although it does describe my family and ancestors.) I am much more upset about the dominance of social media and Smartphones (etc.) and 'Big Brother' now than I am about the advancement of POC and/or those in the LGBT community -- in fact, I have no gripe at all about the advancement of POC, and my only gripe about the latter is how so many liberals seem to care more about the rights of less than 1% of the population (meaning people who are transgendered) than they do about the 99% of people who are not.

So, to summarize, although, yes, I do think the U.S. of 1959 was a more pleasant place than it is today IF one was a middle-class WASP, if I could turn back the clock and "freeze", it would be to 1999 and not 1959.

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Old 10-08-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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See the thread on smart speakers and there is your answer. "1984" and big brother has already been accepted in 2019. The real year 1984 was great. Orwell was just off by a few decades.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Because People started thinking it was ok to waiver from biologically correct sexuality, murdering babies and anything goes mentality


No morals
It's always been that way. Where do you get this idea that generations past were living in lily-white perfection???
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:58 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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I think such things are cyclical. Things flare up and things calm down. I think what will happen is enough things will be done to lessen economic concerns (like student loan debt crisis) that most people will be happy and things will calm back down. A fringe on the left truly wants a massive system overhaul, most people just want the same securities and protections their grandparents had under the New Deal. GOP kept chipping away until even middle class people felt pinched.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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You should have been around in 1968. That was some scary sh$#.
Yes. 1968 was awful.

And then, in the early seventies, Watergate. I remember the terrible worry and tension of that time.

For my parents it was Pearl Harbor and the War.

But this constitutional crisis has me worried, I have to admit.
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