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The Catholic church has effectively said that even Christ made a mistake by allowing the thief to die on that horrible cross. So, I guess the promise of heaven must not exist according to the Catholic church.
So, by your logic, we should all want to die sooner in order to reach heaven, and if we'd like to live a full life, that must indicate that there is no heaven?
So, by your logic, we should all want to die sooner in order to reach heaven, and if we'd like to live a full life, that must indicate that there is no heaven?
if memory serves me well, the divine Catholics believe in order to seriously enter, you MUST suffer here FIRST, in fact, the more you suffer, the more qualified your card is... so cancel the death penalty if they get in the mix, they like the high tax idea on keeping scum alive, in order to prove their twisted ideals
Its easy to pass judgement and be a 3rd party backbencher, until a personal family member has it happened to and you like to see the perp boil in oil.
Not everyone comes to the same conclusion when it affects them personally. And if we all allowed that to happen, we might wind up changing quite a few laws to accommodate people's pain over crimes that affected them.
OP...you lose some credibility to me (not that you should weep over that...it is an internet message board) if you don't come back and discuss these issues. What was the point in starting the thread? If you truly believed in the importance of what you're arguing, why can't you defend it? Seems like trolling behavior.
I'm glad that the US still has death penalty in some states because there are people who really don't deserve to live in a society. Like that Austrian guy who raped and imprisoned his own daughter for years, for example. Then there are killers and mass murderers like Osama Bin Laden, Timothy McVain, etc. Call me bood thirsty, but I would fry their brains in a heart beat!
I support gun control but I wouldn't abolish guns altogether. It does have its uses.
Whatever race, whatever political bent, whatever nationality, if you're within the borders of the US, and sometimes even outside the borders of the US and perpetrate a crime against the US, whatever station in life (rich, poor; elite, common; sophisticate, redneck), to paraphrase the late Johnny Cochran: If you can't do the time (or sentence or penalty), don't do the crime.
And don't come to me for protection just because you are against gun ownership. If you think that just because you won't/can't defend yourself that the criminal will pass you by, wow, what a sucker you are!
And like someone else wrote, I really don't give a tinker's damn what anyone outside the United States thinks about our Constitution. Clean up your own backyard before you criticize someone else.
'Proud' is not the correct way of viewing it, what I am proud about is states (like this one) that does what is morally correct and have the cojones to sentance those deserving to die to death. Putting a man/woman to death is touchy and serious matter, in case you haven't heard, murdering someone is a moral crime.(this is not to be confused/twisted as protecting your life/family fm harm, that's protection, remember, when seconds count, the police are many minutes away....). Same as rape, child predators and child beaters and all the other heinous crimes. The victims didn't ask for it, and it's sickning to think that 'well, they didn't really mean that' and dilute what really happened. Its easy to pass judgement and be a 3rd party backbencher, until a personal family member has it happened to and you like to see the perp boil in oil.
Well, the application of the death penalty is the problem I have. It is certainly biased toward minorities, especially African Americans. Numerous studies have shown that a black man is much more likely to be sentenced to death as a white man who committed a similar crime. Also, anyone who has worked in the criminal justice system knows the fundamental injustices in the system. In the Great State of Texas, I remember reading stories about defendants in death penalty cases who had lawyers sleep through trial. Even if your lawyer stays awake, if you are poor the chips are already stacked against you. You get a court appointed lawyer who is swamped with cases. And given what I know about the level of investment Texas traditionally has made in public service, I doubt they are paying those court appointed lawyers very well.
Well, the application of the death penalty is the problem I have. It is certainly biased toward minorities, especially African Americans. Numerous studies have shown that a black man is much more likely to be sentenced to death as a white man who committed a similar crime. Also, anyone who has worked in the criminal justice system knows the fundamental injustices in the system. In the Great State of Texas, I remember reading stories about defendants in death penalty cases who had lawyers sleep through trial. Even if your lawyer stays awake, if you are poor the chips are already stacked against you. You get a court appointed lawyer who is swamped with cases. And given what I know about the level of investment Texas traditionally has made in public service, I doubt they are paying those court appointed lawyers very well.
Where did you get your Kool Aide? The death penalty is not biased towards minorities. Prior to the very liberal Warren Supreme Court's decision to stop the old death penalty, there was possibly a bias, but since the death penalty is no longer effective, the unlawful death penalty is being administered by mostly young black men. Catch-22?
A few summers ago, there were 15 young black men shot by the Cincinnati Police. This created an out rage by all the Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's, so Cincy pulled the cops out of the area, and within a month 75 shootings had taken place.
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