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Old 04-02-2021, 01:44 PM
 
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This is not uplifting stuff. Naomi Wolf is a leftist warning about the serious danger of vaccine passports. I'm definitely not a leftist, but I completely agree with what she is saying. I hope that all Americans of all political persuasions can see how serious the danger is here. The danger to liberty should be blatantly obvious to all of us:

"As a Democrat, I am horrified that the Biden Administration is rolling this out, but this is beyond partistanship. Tories are rolling it out in Britain. In Israel, Netanyahu rolled it out. In 6 months, no 4 months, Israel crushed civil society because people who don't sign on to this pass system are 2nd rate citizens. And people even who do sign on to it who are dissidents are hounded and shamed and ostracized and surveilled 24/7. And they're trying to warn the rest of the world. And I'm trying to warn you."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWoDbGNt4wg
Bill Gates was talking about using biometric tattoos on your hand for the vaccine passport in an interview.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:45 PM
 
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Bill Gates was talking about using biometric tattoos on your hand for the vaccine passport in an interview.
I do have to wonder, what's a second rate citizen?
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Funny how some will scream and yell over getting a vaccine in a pandemic, yet won't fight against racism, inequality, women's rights, voting rights, etc. So I guess fighting for freedom means only fighting for the issue(s) you believe in.
There are people who stand for those issues and also stand strongly against forcing inoculation for a vaccine passport or else suffering life restrictions on a local level, like going into a restaurant or pub, a grocery store or shop, having no access to some online services if you’re deemed a dissenting “bad citizen.” Being restricted in movement.
This is your future and that of your kids. China has a database for control of every citizen and other countries now are buying in. Don’t believe it? Wait and do nothing.
Good luck.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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Its impossible to vaccinate everyone every week.



They have been chipping away at our freedoms since just after 9/11. Look at all the flying restrictions, banking restrictions, etc. All the spying on Americans monitoring everything anyone says or emails or texts. And most people were fine with it because we were stopping terrorism. Or so they said. So sure the DemoCon, RepublicoCrat party will use the pandemic to control people more I believe that. And just like after 9/11 most people either don't care or think its a good idea.

So all of this is an exercise in futility. There will be a vaccine passport and it will probably never go away because these things never do. I guess I worry about it a little less because the government is already watching and controlling everyone everything. This is not a giant step just one more step.
It bothers me that you see this but just acquiesce to it all.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:49 PM
 
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And furthermore, I object to having to have a driver's license and all the stuff they make you go through! I think there's a chemical on it that rubs into your fingers so the gov'mint can track your every move and then they will be able to control your thoughts. I saw it on Fox News so it must be true.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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I do have to wonder, what's a second rate citizen?
Seriously? It's the same thing as a second-class citizen. Do you know what that is? Here, I will show you from MW:
Definition of second-class citizen



: someone who is not given the same rights as other people
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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There are people who stand for those issues and also stand strongly against forcing inoculation for a vaccine passport or else suffering life restrictions on a local level, like going into a restaurant or pub, a grocery store or shop, having no access to some online services if you’re deemed a dissenting “bad citizen.” Being restricted in movement.
This is your future and that of your kids. China has a database for control of every citizen and other countries now are buying in. Don’t believe it? Wait and do nothing.
Good luck.
And you know that you are going to be considered a bad citizen for not getting a vaccine? Because I haven't seen that anywhere. Will you have to have a vaccine passport to travel out of the country? Maybe. Other than that I don't see the need for all the hysteria.

So what exactly are YOU doing, since you think I am waiting and doing nothing? Voicing an opinion on a forum does not for action make. I think Amazon is more than happy to take my money, vaccine or no vaccine. I'm already restricted in movement, as I only go to the grocery store now because there are so many out there not abiding by CDC guidelines.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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I do have to wonder, what's a second rate citizen?

A second class citizen is one who is a citizen but is denied the social, political and economic benefits of citizenship. People who don’t go along with this passport will become second class citizens.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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Seriously? It's the same thing as a second-class citizen. Do you know what that is? Here, I will show you from MW:
Definition of second-class citizen



: someone who is not given the same rights as other people
Ah, so the fighting I do for justice and equality for those considered lesser in our society (certain segments of our population, LGBTQ folks, etc) is a good thing then? Glad you agree that it's a bad thing to marginalize these folks.
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Old 04-02-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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And furthermore, I object to having to have a driver's license and all the stuff they make you go through! I think there's a chemical on it that rubs into your fingers so the gov'mint can track your every move and then they will be able to control your thoughts. I saw it on Fox News so it must be true.
I gather you watched the video and thought critically about the issue before posting this response.
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