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Why not hold up signs showing a vasectomy procedure? A tubal ligation? A hysterectomy? All prevent reproduction, all are against 'God's plan'. Why stop at abortion? Slip, slip down the slope....
Please, none of these procedures end the life of a baby! This isn't about God! This is about protecting human life!
Today I went out to run some errands, and a religious anti-abortion group was holding up graphic signs of dismembered fetuses on the side of a major road. There was absolutely no way to avoid seeing them. I was disgusted by this, and my first thought was, is this legal??? I mean, anyone who drives down this road is unknowingly forced to look at these graphic images, children included. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, do you think this was appropriate? I'm curious to hear people's responses.
I find it very interesting that these are usually the very same people that say nudity, profanity and even violence on TV will corrupt the minds of children...
I think it's judgmental on their part, they see every woman that gets an abortion as a barbarian, I guess they see it as fight fire with fire.
But I think it's a sort of double standard. When a woman wants an abortion the child is a precious gift, when a girl gets knocked up (because birth control is some evil from the lowest level of hell) and asks for help the child is leverage and used as punishment for her irresponsibility.
Please, none of these procedures end the life of a baby! This isn't about God! This is about protecting human life!
What if I say that human life begins with the egg and the sperm? That interfering with conception is thwarting God's plan? That sexual intercourse is only for reproduction? What if? If that's my religious belief (and it is for many conservative religious folk) then any kind of artificial contraception- vasectomies, tubal ligations, condoms, etc- are against God's law. So...let's get up a poster of all those things and walk around with them.
Why not hold up signs showing a vasectomy procedure? A tubal ligation? A hysterectomy? All prevent reproduction, all are against 'God's plan'. Why stop at abortion? Slip, slip down the slope....
Not sure why you would protest a vasectomy.
They werent protesting reproduction prevention. They view abortion as killing a kid. I have no truble relating to that.
What your talking about is more like if they were protesting women getting their tubes tied. Thats making a choice. An abortion is usually caused because someone put off making a choice.
Not sure why you would protest a vasectomy.
They werent protesting reproduction prevention. They view abortion as killing a kid. I have no truble relating to that.
What your talking about is more like if they were protesting women getting their tubes tied. Thats making a choice. An abortion is usually caused because someone put off making a choice.
What I'm saying is that being anti abortion is just one dot on the 'when does life begin' map. The ultra conservative believe that all sperm and eggs are sacred. That preventing any pregnancy is akin to killing life. That sexual intercourse is for procreation ONLY. For them, a vasectomy is against God's teachings because it interferes with God's plan for having children. The most liberal among us believe that life begins when a baby is born and can breath on its own. Where you fall on that continuum defines what graphic medical poster you will carry in traffic, I guess. Vasectomy, Hysterectomy, Abortion or none.
What if I say that human life begins with the egg and the sperm? That interfering with conception is thwarting God's plan? That sexual intercourse is only for reproduction? What if? If that's my religious belief (and it is for many conservative religious folk) then any kind of artificial contraception- vasectomies, tubal ligations, condoms, etc- are against God's law. So...let's get up a poster of all those things and walk around with them.
Why do you keep bringing god into this? I'm vehemently opposed to abortion, yet claim no religion whatsoever. This has zero to do with god, quit throwing that out there. Why are people so quick to assume that all pro-life people are religious? There are many like myself who are not. I don't consider 'gods plan' in this at all. This is about the basic right to survival, a chance to live.
No one wants to see those images, that I agree with. But, if it causes just one person to actually act responsibly, and think before having sex without considering the consequences, then I'm all for it. If it's on private property, I think they should retain the legal right to present them. People are too wrapped up in worrying about what offends.
I haven't even mentioned religion or God at all! How do you know I am even a person of faith?! My belief that abortion is repulsive has nothing to do with God!
Then you have nothing at all that can serve as a logical basis for your beliefs.
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I believe abortion is wrong simply b/c I deem all human life to be valuable...
Then you should stand as well against appendectomies, colonoscopies, and manicures. Each of these reliably results in the destruction of what is undeniably human life. If you don't stand just as firmly against these other procedures, then you have been using the term "human life" to stand for more than what it actually means.
Why do you keep bringing god into this? I'm vehemently opposed to abortion, yet claim no religion whatsoever. This has zero to do with god, quit throwing that out there. Why are people so quick to assume that all pro-life people are religious? There are many like myself who are not. I don't consider 'gods plan' in this at all. This is about the basic right to survival, a chance to live.
No one wants to see those images, that I agree with. But, if it causes just one person to actually act responsibly, and think before having sex without considering the consequences, then I'm all for it. If it's on private property, I think they should retain the legal right to present them. People are too wrapped up in worrying about what offends.
A great number of the anti-choice crowd are so because of religious reasons. I don’t believe she said that “all” anti-choice people are religious, albeit a great number are, and proud of it. I find a great number of them to also be anti-woman, anti-medical aid, anti-birth control, anti-housing support, anti-child once born, anti-anti, etc.
You hold your beliefs about a fetus as a religion, though. You blame the woman for acting irresponsibly. Got any words for the men who made her pregnant? They seem to get by scot free in your belief system.
The cult of the fetus is not bound by organized religious ideology; it is however, a control issue.
Against abortion, don’t have one.
It’s not going anywhere, legal or not. I assume you prefer death to the women who would choose to have one, as is the too frequent response when abortion is illegal.
The lies and deception used by the corner groups is patently wrong.
A great number of the anti-choice crowd are so because of religious reasons. I don’t believe she said that “all” anti-choice people are religious, albeit a great number are, and proud of it. I find a great number of them to also be anti-woman, anti-medical aid, anti-birth control, anti-housing support, anti-child once born, anti-anti, etc.
You hold your beliefs about a fetus as a religion, though. You blame the woman for acting irresponsibly. Got any words for the men who made her pregnant? They seem to get by scot free in your belief system.
The cult of the fetus is not bound by organized religious ideology; it is however, a control issue.
Against abortion, don’t have one.
It’s not going anywhere, legal or not. I assume you prefer death to the women who would choose to have one, as is the too frequent response when abortion is illegal.
The lies and deception used by the corner groups is patently wrong.
Against slavery, don't own one. Against raping women, don't rape one. Against molesting children, don't molest one.
Ah, ain't moral relativism grand?
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