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Old 07-11-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Obviously you know of someone doing illegal procedures, why don't you report them?
PBA's can be done legally - there are some "conditions" that have to be met -
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:43 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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What exactly is your point? You sit there & drone about how you think liberals have no problem w/ drilling babies heads...where exactly is your mind?? How do you get that from people who happen to be pro-choice? Why do you people INSIST on taking things to a ridiculous, absurd level? It's just all about drama, shock level for you, you don't even sit down & rationalize your points. I am so sick & tired of conservatives just relying on the ole fall-back of if people are pro-choice they're murderers & hate babies & love to kill babies & love to pulverize & mush them up in a blender, etc. etc. It's such childish school yard logic...that means, there is no logic in your continued, sorry, pathetic, boring & sad argument....over & over & over & over. You may as well market yourself as TylenolPM, at least you'd make some money.
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:21 AM
 
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at least they are not bombing clinics like they did in the 80's and 90's...better to have them demonstrating than killing doctors...
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Old 07-12-2008, 02:51 AM
 
Location: Earth
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How many PETA wackos cry and wail over the yellow tailed whipperwhill yet don't even think twice about the millions of preborn babies burned, brains sucked out and limbs dismembered, all in the name of choice. Secular fundamentalist neolibs decry the death penalty as "cruel and unusual punishment" yet again are all for murdering innocent babies who feel pain, all in the name of "choice". God help us all.
Preborn, what the heck is that? If it’s preborn it’s not a person.
Here’s what an early abortion looks like: What does an early abortion look like? (http://www.abortion.org.au/abortionpictures.htm - broken link)
Where do you get your information, because it’s pretty far off the mark.
Don’t forget these photos: Developmental Biology 8e Online: Images of Embryos Used by Anti-Abortion Activists

Don’t want an abortion, don’t have one.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:15 AM
 
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What exactly is your point? You sit there & drone about how you think liberals have no problem w/ drilling babies heads...where exactly is your mind?? How do you get that from people who happen to be pro-choice? Why do you people INSIST on taking things to a ridiculous, absurd level? It's just all about drama, shock level for you, you don't even sit down & rationalize your points. I am so sick & tired of conservatives just relying on the ole fall-back of if people are pro-choice they're murderers & hate babies & love to kill babies & love to pulverize & mush them up in a blender, etc. etc. It's such childish school yard logic...that means, there is no logic in your continued, sorry, pathetic, boring & sad argument....over & over & over & over. You may as well market yourself as TylenolPM, at least you'd make some money.
I agree with you. People who resort to hyperbole and exagerations to make their point generally tend to miss the point, which is abortion is a complicated issue that Americans tend to have mixed views about. No in depth discussion can happen as long as babies in blenders as well as trying to equate fetuses with sperm or bunions are bandied about.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Today I went out to run some errands, and a religious anti-abortion group was holding up graphic signs of dismembered fetuses on the side of a major road. There was absolutely no way to avoid seeing them. I was disgusted by this, and my first thought was, is this legal??? I mean, anyone who drives down this road is unknowingly forced to look at these graphic images, children included. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, do you think this was appropriate? I'm curious to hear people's responses.
Was it appropriate? No. But should it be banned? No because it is free speech. Nobody likes to see anything bloody (well maybe the Republicans do) but the signs are free speech. You should just turn away like when you drive by a mangled dog in the street.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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To get proper medical information on the procedure, you would search on "intact dilation and extraction" not "partial birth abortion" as partial birth abortion is not the name of any medical procedure.

ID&X are still performed, but not in the manner discussed by the previous poster. The head is not delivered prior to abortion. The abortion is performed within the womb. They are performed in less than .03% of all abortions. D&E is a much safer procedure, and is what is more commonly used in later term abortions.

ID&X does not present a "dismembered" fetus and is most commonly used in cases of fetal defect in which the parents desire an intact fetus.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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While I am not a huge fan of pictures of aborted babies being sprung on people, I do believe it is important that people see them as these pictures depict the truth and horror of abortion. The fact of the matter is, we are visual learners. Is is wrong to show people what smoking does to their lungs and body? Is is wrong to show teenagers pictures of drunk driving accidents so as to teach them the dangers of drinking and driving? Do we brand it vile and repulsive to have pictures of the Holocaust in our history books? What about pictures of starving children in Africa? No, b/c these pictures educate, they depict truth and seeing the truth changes hearts and puts people into action. Yes, pictures of aborted babies are disgusting and horrible, but more disgusting and horrible is the actual practice of abortion, which no one can deny stops the beating heart of a member of the human race and does so by horrifying mutiliation.
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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god I hate demonstrators.
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Old 07-18-2008, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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While I am not a huge fan of pictures of aborted babies being sprung on people, I do believe it is important that people see them as these pictures depict the truth and horror of abortion. The fact of the matter is, we are visual learners. Is is wrong to show people what smoking does to their lungs and body? Is is wrong to show teenagers pictures of drunk driving accidents so as to teach them the dangers of drinking and driving? Do we brand it vile and repulsive to have pictures of the Holocaust in our history books? What about pictures of starving children in Africa? No, b/c these pictures educate, they depict truth and seeing the truth changes hearts and puts people into action. Yes, pictures of aborted babies are disgusting and horrible, but more disgusting and horrible is the actual practice of abortion, which no one can deny stops the beating heart of a member of the human race and does so by horrifying mutiliation.
Best point so far in this heated debate!
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