News, Abortion clinic cited for improper disposal. (illegal, death, March)

[saganista]

Originally Posted by TexianPatriot

State's rights issue. There is nothing in our Constitution that protects a woman's right to terminate the life of another, regardless of the stage of development of that life.

The Constitutional right that Roe defends is a woman's right not to be pregnant. Other people cannot come along and compel women to bear children against their wishes.

Originally Posted by TexianPatriot

By having consentual sex, doesn't a person give the fetus a right to fully develop into a human child? I mean, that is what naturally occurs from sex, is it not?

By what right does some random uninvited fetus invade and occupy the personal domain of one's uterus? By having a door to it, do I imply the right of random univited robbers and burglars to invade and occupy the personal domain of my home? Or may I use up to lethal force in defending that personal domain against such invasions and occupations?

[newtoli]

The majority of abortions are performed before NINE WEEKS. There is no "torn up" body.

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by Freebird2007

are you living in some fairly land?

google abortions

I did. In the majority of abortions, you literally cannot tell the fetus from the other tissue that comes from the procedure.

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by saganista

By what right does some random uninvited fetus invade and occupy the personal domain of one's uterus? By having a door to it, do I imply the right of random univited robbers and burglars to invade and occupy the personal domain of my home? Or may I use up to lethal force in defending that personal domain against such invasions and occupations?

uninvited fetus? wtf?


see what happens if you leave your car running with the door open. and when your car gets stolen...try to get an insurance claim on it...you will get denied.

from what I remember in biology, sex was for procreation, not just simply pleasure.

your argument is as loopy as Obama

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by Langlen

I did. In the majority of abortions, you literally cannot tell the fetus from the other tissue that comes from the procedure.

I have seen the "fetal remains" from such procedures myself.

It is a jar of what looks like (pardon the grossness) a menstrual cycle.

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by Freebird2007

uninvited fetus? wtf?


see what happens if you leave your car running with the door open. and when your car gets stolen...try to get an insurance claim on it...you will get denied.

from what I remember in biology, sex was for procreation, not just simply pleasure.

your argument is as loopy as Obama

If you're driving a car, and get into a car accident, do I have the right to deny you health care?

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by newtoli

The majority of abortions are performed before NINE WEEKS. There is no "torn up" body.

39% AFTER 9 weeks. not to mention that 4.6% are still performed when you can undeniably determine that it is a baby

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by Langlen

I did. In the majority of abortions, you literally cannot tell the fetus from the other tissue that comes from the procedure.

most....but still...a lot of abortions are performed when the development has occured where we can see that it is a human and not a pig

[Langlen]

Originally Posted by Freebird2007

39% AFTER 9 weeks. not to mention that 4.6% are still performed when you can undeniably determine that it is a baby

And yet the "baby" cannot live on its own for the 16-20 week period. Until the fetus can live on its own, I cannot see any anti-abortion arguments that hold water.

[Freebird2007]

Originally Posted by Langlen

If you're driving a car, and get into a car accident, do I have the right to deny you health care?

yes? I don't recall a law that says someone has to be treated (I could be wrong though)



and besides, relevance?