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Old 02-20-2007, 09:24 PM
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Really? Because IMHO he put together a great, methodical case with a powerhouse summation, and has Deadeye right in his line of vision. He's certainly discredited Libby enough to eliminate him as a witness in any Cheney trial. And, there's still that sealed indictment thingy, too...

Funny how the wingnut blogosphere doesn't match your smugness, either, and you know they'd be cackling like hyenas if there was even a chance that this would prove to be a "nonevent". They are eerily silent about this.

The neocon house of cards is about to come tumblin' down. It's Fitzmas, baby!
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Old 02-21-2007, 04:37 AM
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Funny how the wingnut blogosphere doesn't match your smugness, either, and you know they'd be cackling like hyenas if there was even a chance that this would prove to be a "nonevent". They are eerily silent about this.

The neocon house of cards is about to come tumblin' down. It's Fitzmas, baby!
Hah!
They would indeed be gathered, slavering and baying if this were a non-event.
"Fitzmas." Love it! All hail mb919.
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Old 02-21-2007, 12:13 PM
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Really? Because IMHO he put together a great, methodical case with a powerhouse summation, and has Deadeye right in his line of vision. He's certainly discredited Libby enough to eliminate him as a witness in any Cheney trial. And, there's still that sealed indictment thingy, too...

Funny how the wingnut blogosphere doesn't match your smugness, either, and you know they'd be cackling like hyenas if there was even a chance that this would prove to be a "nonevent". They are eerily silent about this.

The neocon house of cards is about to come tumblin' down. It's Fitzmas, baby!
The wingnuts' biggest argument was "Plame wasn't covert so no crime was committed." There would be no reason for a trial if no crime was committed.

Frankly, I'm more concerned that we have treasonous SOBs running the country. Declassifying secret material for political purposes? Outing a CIA agent? If, in the next trial, it's proven that Cheney outed a covert agent for political purposes, Cheney deserves to hang.
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Here's another article on the Libby trial that some might appreciate reading:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0220-06.htm

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Old 02-21-2007, 01:45 PM
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ontheroad,

I read that yesterday in the National Journal. I've been following Murray Waas for awhile now. He seems to have some sort of inside information... Not sure who/what but his stories have been "on the money" throughout this entire thing.

I *hope* Uncle Dickie is indicted next!!
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:29 PM
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Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was convicted Tuesday of lying and obstructing a leak investigation that reached into the highest levels of the Bush administration.

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Old 03-06-2007, 01:49 PM
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The wingnuts' biggest argument was "Plame wasn't covert so no crime was committed." There would be no reason for a trial if no crime was committed.

Frankly, I'm more concerned that we have treasonous SOBs running the country. Declassifying secret material for political purposes? Outing a CIA agent? If, in the next trial, it's proven that Cheney outed a covert agent for political purposes, Cheney deserves to hang.
Surely you jest. Libby will get what's coming to him for lying to investigators, similar to what Martha Stewart did, but less serious than Bill Clinton's lying to a grand jury, as he should. No other crime has been committed related to this story. After the Libby trial is done, it's over.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Surely you jest. Libby will get what's coming to him for lying to investigators, similar to what Martha Stewart did, but less serious than Bill Clinton's lying to a grand jury, as he should. No other crime has been committed related to this story. After the Libby trial is done, it's over.
Lying to a grand jury and the FBI over the outing of a covert agent, during a time of war no less (and yes, she WAS a covert agent) is less serious than lying about a BJ? If you say so.

It's nice to see that these guys (well, some of these guys, anyway) aren't above the law. I hope that Congress, and specifically Rep. Conyers, picks up Fitz's ball and takes this all the way up to the top. He would be derelict in his duty if he didn't. Even the jurors knew that while Libby lied, he was a mere front man for Cheney, Rove, and Bush. This administration is a bunch of anti-American criminals who put party and self over country, and anyone who apologizes for them or continues to cheer them on is just as anti-American. Really, only the willfully ignorant fail to see this at this point.
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Lying to a grand jury and the FBI over the outing of a covert agent, during a time of war no less (and yes, she WAS a covert agent) is less serious than lying about a BJ? If you say so.
The reason for the lying is irrelevent. If Plame was covert, there would've already been a trial.

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It's nice to see that these guys (well, some of these guys, anyway) aren't above the law. I hope that Congress, and specifically Rep. Conyers, picks up Fitz's ball and takes this all the way up to the top. He would be derelict in his duty if he didn't. Even the jurors knew that while Libby lied, he was a mere front man for Cheney, Rove, and Bush. This administration is a bunch of anti-American criminals who put party and self over country, and anyone who apologizes for them or continues to cheer them on is just as anti-American. Really, only the willfully ignorant fail to see this at this point.
The kool-aid sure is flowing this evening.
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