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And churches contribute zilch? With all of the church-operated programs that benefit the community, such as feeding and housing the homeless and youth programs, I would say churches contribute lots to the community. If you revoke their tax-exempt status, then the churches will have to cut back on community programs and focus only on meeting overhead expenses, which many churches barely make as is.
Churches donate TONS of money, and man-hours, to communities. But don't tell Liberals that, because they won't believe it anyway.
Shoot, we have a HUGE homeless shelter here, in my city, that is owned, funded and operated by the Catholic Church - horrible people that they are! So go ahead and try to tax the heck out of these churches, and watch things like Homeless Shelters be closed.
And churches contribute zilch? With all of the church-operated programs that benefit the community, such as feeding and housing the homeless and youth programs, I would say churches contribute lots to the community. If you revoke their tax-exempt status, then the churches will have to cut back on community programs and focus only on meeting overhead expenses, which many churches barely make as is.
Then they should maintain their tax exempt status and not contribute money to politics. It's one or the other, they can't have it both ways. And hey, think of it this way, instead of a church flat out saying that Prop 8 should pass, they could speak subtly to their congregation and let them know without saying it in so many words that they should take their own money as individuals and donate it to pass Prop 8. Then there would be less of a controversy.
After the hurricanes we had in Louisiana, it was places of worship that worked together to create a network to provide aid to those in need and they did so much faster than the federal and state government because they didn't have to bother with the typical paperwork BS. They also provided shelter, food, clothing, and contact information in order to get help or get info out to relatives where they were and that they were alright. The fact that some here try to justify vandalism of churches shows their complete disdain and hatred of religion. Just because you don't agree with the vote doesn't give you the right to commit a crime. Besides, you got a problem with the vote than take it up with more than 50% of the voting population of the state of California. Go ahead, vandalize their homes you F-ing cowards!
You REALLY need to do some more research into this before you make such bold statements about "handout from the government...", etc.
You're barking up the wrong tree. In fact, you're not even in the right forest.
Not being taxed is the same as a government handout. That's money that they don't have to give to the government that any other business would have to. They keep that money. But hey, I said the other option was that they could keep their tax exempt status and not get into politics. They just can't have it both ways.
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Then they should maintain their tax exempt status and not contribute money to politics. It's one or the other, they can't have it both ways. And hey, think of it this way, instead of a church flat out saying that Prop 8 should pass, they could speak subtly to their congregation and let them know without saying it in so many words that they should take their own money as individuals and donate it to pass Prop 8. Then there would be less of a controversy.
With churches donating lots of their money towards the community, such as the homeless and other programs, how dare the government tell them that they cannot participate in the political process as other non-profits are allowed. What are churches, second class tax-exempt organizations?
Not being taxed is the same as a government handout. That's money that they don't have to give to the government that any other business would have to. They keep that money. But hey, I said the other option was that they could keep their tax exempt status and not get into politics. They just can't have it both ways.
Hahahaha - nice!
You really have NO IDEA what would happen, if churches - and all other non-profits - lost their tax exempt status, do you?
Churches would be the LEAST affected of ALL entities!
I'm sorry, but you simply have NO IDEA what you're asking for!
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Not being taxed is the same as a government handout. That's money that they don't have to give to the government that any other business would have to. They keep that money. But hey, I said the other option was that they could keep their tax exempt status and not get into politics. They just can't have it both ways.
More money for uncle sam and less for the homeless and other community programs. Really brilliant. And why can't they have it both ways? Other non-profits can participate in the political process without worrying about their tax-exempt status so why should churches have a political muzzle?
After the hurricanes we had in Louisiana, it was places of worship that worked together to create a network to provide aid to those in need and they did so much faster than the federal and state government because they didn't have to bother with the typical paperwork BS. They also provided shelter, food, clothing, and contact information in order to get help or get info out to relatives where they were and that they were alright. The fact that some here try to justify vandalism of churches shows their complete disdain and hatred of religion. Just because you don't agree with the vote doesn't give you the right to commit a crime. Besides, you got a problem with the vote than take it up with more than 50% of the voting population of the state of California. Go ahead, vandalize their homes you F-ing cowards!
That's ALWAYS the way it works.
Shoot, I know DOZENS of people who are STILL going down to New Orleans and working - all at their own expense - to rebuild houses. Meanwhile, the people who own those houses are so danged lazy they won't lift a finger to help themselves. They're sitting on their butts expecting hand-outs. Kinda shows you why New Orleans is known as the infected, in-grown hair on the butt-cheeks of America.
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