Hate crimes: Gays vandalize SF Castro church! (Israel, Pittsburgh, voted)
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Ask the cops and they'll tell you: Gays are most often victims of gay-bashings in heavily gay neighborhoods.
Someone looking for a gay guy to attack isn't going to go out to Pleasanton looking for gays; he's almost undoubtedly going to go somewhere around the Castro District.
If that is the case than why do I never see anything on the local news let alone the the national news about there being an epidemic of heterosexual on gay crimes in the Castro ? And if it is so dangerous to be a gay person living on Castro than why is there no massive gay flight from that area ?
I've had a homosexual in my family (he passed away) who I loved dearly despite the fact that I heavily disagreed with his lifestyle choice.
Like I said, disagreeing is one thing... not accepting them is different, since you can't truly love somebody if you don't accept ALL of them. I disagree with the Catholic & Christian churches on many things, but I fully accept and support their right to exist. Does that make sense?
P.S. Being gay is neither a lifestyle nor a choice.
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If that is the case than why do I never see anything on the local news let alone the the national news about there being an epidemic of heterosexual on gay crimes in the Castro ? And if it is so dangerous to be a gay person living on Castro than why is there no massive gay flight from that area ?
I agree. I think a lot of these "gay bashing" incidents are manifactured or they just might be someone expressing their disapproval of the homosexuality. If there was an actual epidemic of gay bashings, the pro-gay mainstream media would be on it in a flash.
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Like I said, disagreeing is one thing... not accepting them is different, since you can't truly love somebody if you don't accept ALL of them. I disagree with the Catholic & Christian churches on many things, but I fully accept and support their right to exist. Does that make sense?
P.S. Being gay is neither a lifestyle nor a choice.
Being in a heterosexual relationship is a choice so why can't the same be said for homosexual relationships? Just because I have heterosexual tendencies does not mean that I am forced against my will to engage in heterosexual sex. If I choose to engage in heterosexual sex or get involved in a heterosexual relationship, I am making a choice.
Didn't you get the memo? If we so much as voice any dissenting views against homosexuality, we are engaging in hatred.
Well, you are! Being against something people can't control is hatred. That's the whole point. Your beliefs are hateful and bigoted if you think Homosexuals don't deserve to be treated just like everyone else. That's the whole point. Why else would you continually be in every single gay forum spewing feelings of hatred towards anything gay related. Being anti gay rights is the exact same thing as being anti civil rights during the 1960s. You're on the side of the hateful, the bigots, the ignorant, the Klan members and the neo-nazis.
If that is the case than why do I never see anything on the local news let alone the the national news about there being an epidemic of heterosexual on gay crimes in the Castro ? And if it is so dangerous to be a gay person living on Castro than why is there no massive gay flight from that area ?
You must not be paying attention then, because I've heard of a few incidents recently - including a string of rapes/assaults on gay men, although I'm not sure the perpetrators were "straight" as they claimed. Luckily it's not a huge issue here, which is why it has become the official "gay safe haven." But if a basher was looking for victims, Castro would be the obvious place to go - which I believe was his (AnUnidentifiedMale) point.
Being in a heterosexual relationship is a choice so why can't the same be said for homosexual relationships? Just because I have heterosexual tendencies does not mean that I am forced against my will to engage in heterosexual sex. If I choose to engage in heterosexual sex or get involved in a heterosexual relationship, I am making a choice.
Nope, you're all confused now... and confusing me too, LOL. Being in a relationship is a choice, yes - but nobody has a choice about WHOM they want to be in a relationship with. So unless you also disagree with your straight friends being in relationships, you are being very selective and intolerant. What other choice would a gay person be able to make, anyway? Would you rather they be celibate for life, or try to be with the opposite sex? I mean, since you seem to be the morality & sexuality expert, I'd like to know your solution on fixing their "choice."
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Well, you are! Being against something people can't control is hatred. That's the whole point. Your beliefs are hateful and bigoted if you think Homosexuals don't deserve to be treated just like everyone else. That's the whole point. Why else would you continually be in every single gay forum spewing feelings of hatred towards anything gay related. Being anti gay rights is the exact same thing as being anti civil rights during the 1960s. You're on the side of the hateful, the bigots, the ignorant, the Klan members and the neo-nazis.
As I stated in a post above yours, homosexuals and heterosexuals both make a conscious choice in the relationships they choose. Voicing a disagreement is not considered hatred unless you wish to have all non-Christians labeled as "haters" or "bigots" I don't spew hatred, I am voicing my opinions which is something that the first amendment gives me a right to do. Homosexuals are granted every right that heterosexuals are granted. The one thing that they are whining about is changing the definition of marriage to suit their purposes. Instead, they should be concerned about strengthening their civil unions and seeking better benefits and perks (which seems to be the main thrust of many of the arguments for same sex marriage anyways).
Being in a heterosexual relationship is a choice so why can't the same be said for homosexual relationships? Just because I have heterosexual tendencies does not mean that I am forced against my will to engage in heterosexual sex. If I choose to engage in heterosexual sex or get involved in a heterosexual relationship, I am making a choice.
Oh, and if I told you "I don't agree with your choice of being in heterosexual relationships," would that make you feel unconditionally loved and tolerated? If your answer was yes, that would tell me you have very low self-esteem.
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You must not be paying attention then, because I've heard of a few incidents recently - including a string of rapes/assaults on gay men, although I'm not sure the perpetrators were "straight" as they claimed. Luckily it's not a huge issue here, which is why it has become the official "gay safe haven." But if a basher was looking for victims, Castro would be the obvious place to go - which I believe was his (AnUnidentifiedMale) point.
If the rapists are not "straight" then these would be classified as gay on gay crime and not evidence of the so-called hate crimes against gays. Just because the Castro is a prime place for anyone looking to bash a gay does not mean that there are a rash of hate crimes against gays.
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Luckily it's not a huge issue here, which is why it has become the official "gay safe haven." But if a basher was looking for victims, Castro would be the obvious place to go - which I believe was his (AnUnidentifiedMale) point.
