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Old 01-08-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by Filet Mignon View Post
Yet again, I'm going to encourage you to stop lying. I never made any implication whatever that I graduated from both Harvard and Yale.

You REALLY need to stop this nonsense.
I brought up the FACT of a Yale degree being proof of NOTHING.

What you didn't imply but made a direct accusation is that I bashed Bush, a blatant lie on your part.

YOU really need to stop both your lies and nonsense.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:32 PM
 
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I read it too, and I don' see any "hyperbole", it's straight forward grammar and vocabulary. I'd like to see you disprove any of it.
It's a weird mix of news and opinion. And the fact is that the police don't know who is responsible for the crime. No one was caught! So it's a little crazy to "report" that a certain category of people are responsible for a crime when no one has even been charged for the crime yet.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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The gays that trashed that church were acting out of hate, hate of Christianity.
This is a perfect example of anti-gay ignorance and bias. You remind me of the people who said that the federal building in Oklahoma City must have been bombed by people from the Middle East - until Tim McVeigh was charged.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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You do have a bit of a point here, however, it doesn't make what these people did OK and its a hate crime.
I agree it's not okay, but we don't know if gay people did it, and we won't know if it's a hate crime until the motive of the perpetrator has been determined.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Burdell ... I reread that post of Filet's and it was obvious to me and others that he was being sarcastic about the "horrible people" comment. We should just drop the matter and move on with the original topic.


Being that Filet had previously chosen to label people speaking against churches as 'church haters', a typically lame defense against opposing points of view, I really have no idea what he/she meant. For all I know they belong to the self-righteous who label the Catholic Church a cult as some very large religious assemblies choose to do. IMO the world has seen more than enough of "My God is better than your God"

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:44 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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If you look at the San Francisco Craigslist Rants and Raves section, or go to the San Francisco Chronicle's website at sfgate.com and read the comments about the gay-related news stories, you'll see a lot of gay bashing - way more than you would see on other cities' websites or expect to see on an SF website.

People are commenting on the SF craiglist saying crap like that because they probably ARE NOT from SF. But that would be the place to post to stir it up and bash people.

NOt much fun basing gays on the South Carolina Craiglist or South Carolina newspaper forum because you wouln't reach as many gays to upset that way.

If i want to go bash inbred hillbillies i probably won't go to the Oakland Tribune or SF craiglist to do it. I would hit the West Virginia paper and craiglist to MAKE my point.

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: THE USA
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Ive seen to many good threads die because of off topicness and personal attacks.

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Old 01-08-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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If i want to go bash inbred hillbillies i probably won't go to the Oakland Tribune or SF craiglist to do it. I would hit the West Virginia paper and craiglist to MAKE my point.
Doesn't inbreeding produce homosexual offspring? All the gays in SF are from small towns across America. Are they the offspring of inbreds?

By the way, marrying of cousins is not permitted in WV or KY, but it is allowed by law in NY, NJ and CT where there are high concentrations of Hasidism.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Quit hijacking this thread before they close it down.


Stay on topic.


You mean the topic that alleges : "Gays vandalize" yet offers no evidence?
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:55 PM
 
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So you are all for NO limits on freedom of speech, but are now saying it is wrong for a teacher to say anything that can be perceived as negative about Christianity to a bunch of 16 years olds. So you DO want limits but only ones you agree with?

Okay, I think I'm getting a handle on how freedom of speech and free excercise of religion and the 1st amendment works in America.

Everyone is allowed to say whatever they like about anyone else however hateful. ALL speech is FREE speech.

EXCEPT: if it is defamatory slander or libel.

EXCEPT: if it is against a Religion (especially the Christian religion) because religious freedom is protected by the 1st amendment as well and trumps anybody else's freedom of speech. As in the case in the quote above.

EXCEPT: Churchs are allowed to slander groups such as homosexuals because a Churches right to free excercise of religion trumps homosexuals' rights against protection from defamation.

Am I getting close yet? Feel free to correct me if I have it wrong.
Yep. Pretty much!

Excellent post
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