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They are "pro life" and then want guns. They are "pro life" and for death penalty.
They are for smaller government yet want to tell gays and lesbians what to do. They are for smaller government but yet don't want to give women that choice. And they are against universal health care and "socialism" so even if someone who is pro life gives birth to child, they both suffer if they don't have the money for it.
See what I mean? Very hypocritical.
There is nothing hypocritical in the first paragraph.
Defining marriage has nothing to do with the size of government - there are already laws (state laws) defining marriage.
And, while opposing a government run health care system conservatives support health care reforms.
I disagree. Conservatives are both more intolerant and hateful then liberals. And they are so much more hypocritical. They are "pro life" and then want guns. They are "pro life" and for death penalty.
They are for smaller government yet want to tell gays and lesbians what to do. They are for smaller government but yet don't want to give women that choice. And they are against universal health care and "socialism" so even if someone who is pro life gives birth to child, they both suffer if they don't have the money for it.
See what I mean? Very hypocritical.
I think the problem is a matter of communication. Most liberals probably aren't the way conservatives may view them and trust me, conservatives are not how you perceive them.
The problem is we always hear or talk about the fringe of each party that has extreme views and eventually we convince ourselves that most members of that 'group' are the same way. This simply is false.
I disagree. Conservatives are both more intolerant and hateful then liberals. And they are so much more hypocritical. They are "pro life" and then want guns. They are "pro life" and for death penalty.
They are for smaller government yet want to tell gays and lesbians what to do. They are for smaller government but yet don't want to give women that choice. And they are against universal health care and "socialism" so even if someone who is pro life gives birth to child, they both suffer if they don't have the money for it.
See what I mean? Very hypocritical.
Another example of you seeing things only in black and white.
I'm not trying to be offensive AT ALL; I'm merely trying to help you understand.
Why do conservatives always think liberals should be tolerant of their beliefs but are never tolerant themselves?
I always see posts on here from conservatives saying: "Oh what a "tolerant" liberal.
I mean, seriously. You all think liberals should shut up and just tolerate your beliefs while you have no respect for our beliefs? Or while you all try to push religion into the government and stop gays and lesbians from marrying who they love?
For one, I know when I say something, people say "Wow. You are not a tolerant liberal."
Never claimed I was. As far as I know liberals here have the right to their beliefs and dont have to bend over backwards in order to please conservatives and be tolerant towards them. This is especially true when conservatives are not very tolerant of our beliefs. You want us to just sit back and tolerate you all when you have no have no intention of tolerating us?
So conservatives, why do you expect liberals to be tolerant when you obviously are not? Where did this whole slogan about "tolerant liberal" even come about?
This has got to be just about the most disengenuous thread/question I have ever seen or read. Or at least in the Top Ten.
What an obvious sophomoric semantic ploy! Geez.
Pay careful attention, TLV...
First of all, "tolerance" -- if it means moral anarchy -- is not considered the highest virtue in the conservative belief system. To conservatives, ..tolerance has a definite definition. Something like "acceptance within specified limits". Those limits being defined as generally accepted moral standards on whatever level applies.
On the other hand, "tolerance" -- as defined to many of those on the left -- is a perversion of the word. It is used as an emotive phrase (after all, who could be against "tolerance"?) to throw up a rhetorical roadblock against honest debate and discussion. The leftist vocabulary is full of such stuff. Racist, Sexist, Homophobic....
I disagree. Conservatives are both more intolerant and hateful then liberals. And they are so much more hypocritical. They are "pro life" and then want guns. They are "pro life" and for death penalty.
They are for smaller government yet want to tell gays and lesbians what to do. They are for smaller government but yet don't want to give women that choice. And they are against universal health care and "socialism" so even if someone who is pro life gives birth to child, they both suffer if they don't have the money for it.
See what I mean? Very hypocritical.
We are pro life so an innocent child can have a life
We are pro death penalty so society can be rid of those who commit heinous crimes. BIG difference
The word tolerance in this regard is somewhat of a misnomer.
We are all intolerant of something. It's human nature. I can't tolerate a screaming kid in the grocery store. It drives me out of my mind. I can think anything I want about that kid and his parent. I am allowed my intolerance. When I say something about it to the child or the parent that is crossing the line.
On social matters I have my thoughts and feelings of what I believe is right and wrong. If my viewpoint is in conflict with yours, that in and of itself does not make me intolerant. I have a right to my view as you so yours. I honestly don't care what YOU do as long as you do not infringe upon MY rights.
You will never see me in a thread about abortion. I feel that abortion is the most abhorrent act that a person can commit. My opinion on this matter can not be swayed. However, I will never stand in the way of a person's right to believe in abortion or to have one. I really don't care what goes on in your house. I have enough to deal with in mine. Likewise, I don't care about the subject of gay marriage. Really, I don't care if people, be they gay or straight, get married or not. That's their business, not mine. On the subject of religion, I know what my beliefs are and I fully respect other's beliefs. I don't care if you worship God, Buddha, Allah, the tree in your back yard, or not at all. I respect your right to believe in, or not believe in, what ever you wish.
Is that tolerant? I don't think so. I think it's just common sense and a belief in live and let live. Just don't force your beliefs, or lack thereof, on me. It's that simple.
The word tolerance in this regard is somewhat of a misnomer.
We are all intolerant of something. It's human nature. I can't tolerate a screaming kid in the grocery store. It drives me out of my mind. I can think anything I want about that kid and his parent. I am allowed my intolerance. When I say something about it to the child or the parent that is crossing the line.
On social matters I have my thoughts and feelings of what I believe is right and wrong. If my viewpoint is in conflict with yours, that in and of itself does not make me intolerant. I have a right to my view as you so yours. I honestly don't care what YOU do as long as you do not infringe upon MY rights.
You will never see me in a thread about abortion. I feel that abortion is the most abhorrent act that a person can commit. However, I will never stand in the way of a person's right to believe in abortion or to have one. I really don't care what goes on in your house. I have enough to deal with in mine. Likewise, I don't care about the subject of gay marriage. Really, I don't care if people, be they gay or straight, get married or not. That's their business, not mine. On the subject of religion, I know what my beliefs are and I fully respect other's beliefs. I don't care if you worship God, Buddha, Allah, the tree in your back yard, or not at all. I respect your right to believe in, or not believe in, what ever you wish.
Is that tolerant? I don't think so. I think it's just common sense and a belief in live and let live. Just don't force your beliefs, or lack thereof, on me. It's that simple.
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