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Old 05-09-2009, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why do conservatives always think liberals should be tolerant of their beliefs but are never tolerant themselves?

I always see posts on here from conservatives saying: "Oh what a "tolerant" liberal.

I mean, seriously. You all think liberals should shut up and just tolerate your beliefs while you have no respect for our beliefs? Or while you all try to push religion into the government and stop gays and lesbians from marrying who they love?

For one, I know when I say something, people say "Wow. You are not a tolerant liberal."

Never claimed I was. As far as I know liberals here have the right to their beliefs and dont have to bend over backwards in order to please conservatives and be tolerant towards them. This is especially true when conservatives are not very tolerant of our beliefs. You want us to just sit back and tolerate you all when you have no have no intention of tolerating us?

So conservatives, why do you expect liberals to be tolerant when you obviously are not? Where did this whole slogan about "tolerant liberal" even come about?
You can be gay, get married, by a mini Cooper, stop smoking, install a solar array on your roof top, abort all your babies, even pay a doctor to make you sterile, avoid meat and eat leaves and twigs, just stop demanding that government should force me to accept and endorse your ideas, and stop demanding I PAY FOR IT.

It is pretty simple, I do not care if, or how you live your life, as long as living your life does not require that I must reach into my pocket in order for you to live it.

Conservatives do not care if two gay men want to have a private marriage ceremony, we just do not want you to force us give up some of our tax dollars so government can support and endorse that marriage.

If you want birth control or an abortion, fine, but do not demand I must pay for it, by forcing me to give up some of my tax dollars so government can support and endorse abortion, condom distribution, or oral contraception.

You think CO2 is destroying the climate and killing the polar bears, then you go out and buy an electric car, or a mini Cooper, and donate to green energy.... but noooo.... you want you to force us give up some of our tax dollars so government can support and endorse that smaller car, green energy or carbon offset, and carbon cap and trade program.

Name for me a liberal idea, desire, or cause that you support, that you do not demand I PAY FOR, a cause or idea that you do NOT want to force me give up some of my freedoms. liberties, or tax dollars so government can support and endorse that liberal idea.

Live your life, pursue your happiness, just stop demanding the federal government get involved and force me to accept and endorse every loony thing that makes you happy.

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Old 05-09-2009, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If you want birth control or an abortion, fine, but do not demand I must pay for it, by forcing me to give up some of my tax dollars so government can support and endorse abortion, condom distribution, or oral contraception.
This conservative would be FINE with his tax dollars being spent on condom distribution and oral contraception. Competely fine.

Just no abortions
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Nope.

Just when they want to dictate woman and think we are sex objects and think they have any control over if we continue our pregnancies or not.

To this day, I will never let a man tell me what to do. EVER. If it has to do with my career, my night plans, my schooling or my body. He will NEVER tell me what to do.

Understand? Good.
WOW! A true man hater
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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WOW! A true man hater
Wow. You are a true woman hater. You want to pick fetuses over women. And also none of my comments said I hate men. I just don't let them dictate me.

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The women who are most vehemently pro-choice usually argue that "the men make the laws and abortion doesn't affect men, so they have no right to ban or even restrict it."

Funny:

1) Abortion does affect men

2) Last time I checked, women also make the laws in this country. For example, my state senator, state representative, US representative, and one of my two US senators are WOMEN. And most of these women are pro-life.
Abortion DOES NOT affect men. When they can get pregnant, then it will. We will talk then.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
You can be gay, get married, by a mini Cooper, stop smoking, install a solar array on your roof top, abort all your babies, even pay a doctor to make you sterile, avoid meat and eat leaves and twigs, just stop demanding that government should force me to accept and endorse your ideas, and stop demanding I PAY FOR IT.

It is pretty simple, I do not care if, or how you live your life, as long as living your life does not require that I must reach into my pocket in order for you to live it.

Conservatives do not care if two gay men want to have a private marriage ceremony, we just do not want you to force us give up some of our tax dollars so government can support and endorse that marriage.

If you want birth control or an abortion, fine, but do not demand I must pay for it, by forcing me to give up some of my tax dollars so government can support and endorse abortion, condom distribution, or oral contraception.

You think CO2 is destroying the climate and killing the polar bears, then you go out and buy an electric car, or a mini Cooper, and donate to green energy.... but noooo.... you want you to force us give up some of our tax dollars so government can support and endorse that smaller car, green energy or carbon offset, and carbon cap and trade program.

Name for me a liberal idea, desire, or cause that you support, that you do not demand I PAY FOR, a cause or idea that you do NOT want to force me give up some of my freedoms. liberties, or tax dollars so government can support and endorse that liberal idea.

Live your life, pursue your happiness, just stop demanding the federal government get involved and force me to accept and endorse every loony thing that makes you happy. government
Where the hell did I say I wanted you to pay for everything?
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: T or C New Mexico
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Hmm. A little anti-male, are you?
Why would your anti male analogy of someone else matter to you? I have friends who are lesbian, and, they could care less about what a man has to offer them. One friend is a mechanic, and another is a highway department worker, and another is a cop, sooooooooooo, women really only need men for one thing, and we all know what that is. next time, maybe you should consider the topic at hand? Oh, btw, I have met some women who are pretty darned self sufficient, and, they don't need men period.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why would your anti male analogy of someone else matter to you? I have friends who are lesbian, and, they could care less about what a man has to offer them. One friend is a mechanic, and another is a highway department worker, and another is a cop, sooooooooooo, women really only need men for one thing, and we all know what that is. next time, maybe you should consider the topic at hand? Oh, btw, I have met some women who are pretty darned self sufficient, and, they don't need men period.
You are not making this amount men and women being equal, you're making it about women being superior.

Equality is great and the way it should be, but being so against sexism and then practicing it yourself is pathetic.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Wow. You are a true woman hater. You want to pick fetuses over women. .
There may be a time -

Unless you experience it - there is no way for someone like you to possible understand

But, my comment was directed at your I will never let a man tell me what to do. EVER. If it has to do with my career, my night plans, my schooling or my body. He will NEVER tell me what to do.

My wife and I are partners - I "tell" her she needs to do things and she "tells" me what I need to do. The way you wrote the statement indicates a hate, an anger, for men.
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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Why would your anti male analogy of someone else matter to you? I have friends who are lesbian, and, they could care less about what a man has to offer them. One friend is a mechanic, and another is a highway department worker, and another is a cop, sooooooooooo, women really only need men for one thing, and we all know what that is. next time, maybe you should consider the topic at hand? Oh, btw, I have met some women who are pretty darned self sufficient, and, they don't need men period.
My friend, can you please go back and reread the post that AnUnidentifiedMale was referring too.

Was anything in there saying I hated men? NOPE. I was just saying that I dont let them control me or my body.

Was that something wrong, my friend?
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Old 05-09-2009, 09:20 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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"Judicial activism" means "they made a decision that I strongly disagree with."

There's no such thing as judicial activism to me. The judges do their jobs, and when they make a decision that is unpopular, the side who disagrees with them labels them "activist judges". That's what it comes down to.

You can make strong arguments about whether or not it was the right decision, or whether the judges should have even taken the case, but the term "activist judge" rings hollow to me.
Now that is a great post!
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